I hear AJAX are looking for a new coach. Would be highly paid and very well respected.

Only required for Tuesday and Thursday nights and 20 weeks on Saturday, would have them packed in down at Albert Park or over at Elsternwick.

Harmes was great when coached the Jackers, Kouta would just be too much.

Pratt was a Patron of the club, so money will not be a problem.

Sticks, Ratts and everyone else will be happy.

Was Kouta's writing bad?

Or the ghost writer's?

Williams book was awfully bad too, yet he's someone worth listening to when he speaks about football.

I don't know why you're criticising Koutoufides so heavily because he's a former Carlton player.

Koutoufides' special comments weren't too bad the time I heard him this year.

Voss and Silvagni were God awful with their special comments, but haven't been failure as coaches.

Good luck to Koutoufides if he wants to coach.

Kouta should look for another club if he wants to coach and do an apprenticeship there.

North would be a good club if he's serious.

Not Richmond.

perfect, it'd round off the boys club of ex-carlton players with minimal experience already on our coaching panel - seems like the only requirement these days.


if we're serious, we need to get experienced blokes in as assistant coaches asap. our targets should include dean laidley (would probably be the best bloke possible), ken hinkley, brad scott, gary o'donnell, brendan mccartney, connolly, sos, elshaug, brenton sanderson. if we can get at least 1 maybe even 2 of those blokes i believe it'd go a long way in making us a better team.

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Kouta's below average intelligence has made him a millionaire.

His book wasn't overly flowery with nonsensical rhetoric, but at the same time to call it poorly written is stretching the boundaries.

It was quite critical of Pagan, but in hindsight that was pretty much on the mark.

My goodness the judgements on Kouta's intellect on this site is extraordinary and very ordinary.

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It's because he's thick.

Great footballer but...

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Isn't that oxymoronic?

You know, like "jumbo shrimp" and "military intelligence" and "adult male"......??

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Why do you say he is thick?

Is it because he speaks with a lisp?

Anyone with a speach impediment would be very self concious about speaking in public or to any sort of gathering. How do you think you would come accross.

He likes John Elliott.

That's not generally recognised as a sign of high intelligence.

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Well, he did wonders in his metro assistant role.

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I really can't understand why the topic needs to denegrate a person who I believe played the best 20-30 weeks of footy that I have ever seen for our club. Treat the man with the respect he deserves and remember him for his on field deeds. If it wasn't for Kouta Essendon* would have at least 1 more premiership than us right now.
I am sure the club will work out if their is a role for him and if their isn't a role they will advise him in a respectable manner.

Nobody denies Kouta was a great football... Heck, even in his prime Warwick Capper was great to watch.
But coaching is a totally different game.

Tim Watson is a perfect example. Great special comments commentator, amazing player at his peak but a supremely dismal failure as coach. If Kouta wants to enter the ring, his trial should be elsewhere learning the ropes at a different footy culture, if he fails it's not at Carlton. If he succeeds and then wants to come to Carlton, and the clubs wants him, that's is a win-win.

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Kouta's never struck me as a keen student of the game.

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I don't think he should be a coach at our club either but the thread should not denegrate into an exercise of taking pot shots at the man.

No one is taking pot shots. I for one gave a reason why not. As did others. If you post here and don't give a reason then sure enough someone will ask for it. So you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

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No matter how long it takes Carlton to rebuild, they will still win a premiership before Essendon* and Collingwood.

He'd be able to offer free cheeseburger slammers from Souvlaki Hut for the first goal in every match. That would get Stevo up and running no doubt.

Now I'm prepared to rate Kouta's coaching abilities on their merits. I don't think you could play the kind of end-to-end football he played without being able to read the play, to be in the right part of the ground at the right moment. 99 prelim final he took match saving marks in defence and match winning marks in the goalsquare...that takes football smarts to know where to be.

However...

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/ ... 62,00.html



If Kouta has serious coaching ambitions he might want to start with paying a little more attention to what coaches are trying to do. If you'd taken any notice of Brett Ratten over the past few weeks, the only reason you'd be talking up our chances in the finals is if you were trying to sabotage what he's doing (I don't think thats what Koutas doing, I think he hasnt been paying attention or is putting his own aspirations ahead of the team).

Maybe he sees it as a bit of a risk free way of enhancing his own reputation. If he's right and we make the grand final, he saw us as a threat weeks out, if he's wrong and we bomb out first week then he didn't really see us getting all the way.

Don't know whats going through his mind, but I'd suggest he's been hanging out with the wrong people. Speaking out without thinking is a trait of a certain ex-president.

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He is a media commentator so it is his job to have an opinion. You for some reason excluded the logic he used to base his assumption that we are a chance and that is our record against the top 4 teams. StKilda we pushed, Geelong tick, Collingwood half tick, Bulldogs big tick. The grand final winner will come from one of those teams. For what it is worth our record against those teams is better than Colingwood and the Bulldogs and the equal of Geelong.
There is some logic in what he says and our form over the last 6 weeks is as good as any team going around at the moment. I personally don't agree with him but if Waite and Jamo were fit and well I would think that we would be a fair dinkum chance to give it a crack.

Sorry, but i just have to disagree with you.

What Kouta is saying is Spot On.

In fact, if you think back to 2001 when we finsihed 5th, we demolished Adelaide but then went down to Richmond the next week................ but had kouta not gone down with a knee injury in that match (he did have 2 goals and 15 possesions at half time before his knee) who knows, we just might have won and went on to meet Brisbane in the Prelim.

But, Brisbane finished 2nd? Could we have beaten Brisbane you ask? WHY NOT? We THRASHED em by 74 points earlier on in the season.

Point i'm trying to make (and Kouta too) is that on our day and at our best, we have proven that we can beat the top teams who are finals favourites. Geelong, Bulldogs, Collingwood and even pushed StKilda!

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