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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:26 am 
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..made a few errors, but especially early in the game wasn't the only player making poor decision choices.. ..i reckon the few weeks in the two's has given him something.. ..he's got the build to hustle and bustle, i don't think he'll ever be elite/v.good in skill execution or decision making, but he's good enough to be a reliable, regularly solid player if he takes on that hard edge, bustling sort of play that he used yesterday, particularly in the 2nd Q when we needed a hard body to impose himself..

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:26 am 
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...hes still very ordinary.

OhAilpin over Russell for mine.

Thats just a personal opinion, more passion - and he can stay on his feet...


In my own opinion i think you should stick to commenting on soccer


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:29 am 
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I dont think anyone who has pumped JR is under the illusion that he's a great player, nor are they unaware of his brain fades etc. It's more just defending a guy who comes in for more criticism than any other player, when he's not our worst. Why doesn't Jake Edwards get some of the attention? or Adam Hartlett? Guys who have sat on the list and done bugger all to improve their game?

If JR continues his current output from here on, I'll be happy when he's out of the team, so long as it's because better players have displaced him. But if he keeps getting a game because there's no one to come in for him, then it's hard to get angry at the bloke.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:46 am 
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I've been critical of the MC for selecting him week after week when he didn't deserve it. Russell is only doing his best, as is Edwards. If you want to be critical of Edwards, have a crack at the recruiters first :thumbsup:

Maybe it's time to bring Edwards in this week for Fisher. Give him a crack up forward. Can't be any worse than poor ol' Fish was yesterday.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:51 am 
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Was in our top 5 easily and was very happy in the way he played yesterday, good on him. And i was someone calling for him to be dropped and I think that his being dropped was good for him and hope he keeps playing at this level for the next few weeks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:12 pm 
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Russell was very good in the first half and was a key source of effort and hardness as we tried to resurrect. He was hard and ran well.

He was moved all around the place. Easily in our most consistent players for the game and warranted a mention in our best.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:18 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:47 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
If you want to be critical of Edwards, have a crack at the recruiters first


Why? 80 players get on primary list each year, not all will be stars, not all will be players. The point is Russell gets targeted because he was a top ten pick and people associate hope with a pick that high, if it doesn't come through, then they feel shafted and blame the player. No one cares about Edwards because no one expects a 3rd rounder to change the world. The point is, no one of note was picked after Russell, he tries his arse off and he holds his spot in the team. He'll be replaced when someone better comes through.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:23 pm 
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Why doesn't Jake Edwards get some of the attention? or Adam Hartlett? Guys who have sat on the list and done bugger all to improve their game?
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Because they are not a first round draft pick nor are they constantly rewarded for less than immpressive performences.

If anything, you have to ask just why it is they get dropped after on bad game yet Russell continues to be favourited by Ratts?

I did have great hopes for Jake Edwards, but he's development stalled quite suddenly. :-(

Hartlett i was never really that impressed with, but i suppose injuries may have taken their toll with him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:28 pm 
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jordan russell :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:31 pm 
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He played well, no doubt about it. Wish there were more of it.

Everything is amplified with JR. Anytime he makes a mistake it's plastered with big neon letters "JR SUX!!!", while on the flipside anytime he has a decent quarter (or kicks a goal for that matter) it's a big ol love-in.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:32 pm 
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blu944 wrote:
The Duke wrote:
If you want to be critical of Edwards, have a crack at the recruiters first


Why? 80 players get on primary list each year, not all will be stars, not all will be players. The point is Russell gets targeted because he was a top ten pick and people associate hope with a pick that high, if it doesn't come through, then they feel shafted and blame the player. No one cares about Edwards because no one expects a 3rd rounder to change the world. The point is, no one of note was picked after Russell, he tries his arse off and he holds his spot in the team. He'll be replaced when someone better comes through.


On the contrary, I couldn't give a toss where a player is taken in the draft - if they perform, they deserve another go. If not - OUT!! I'm glad Russell has had a good game, he now needs to back it up with another and another. If he doesn't - bye, bye.

It takes more balls to drop a high draft player and accept a mistake than clinging on to a dream.

While we're on players from the draft - Garlett's reading of the play is deeeeeeeeelicious.

The collect on the wing, chip to Murphy was great, but the run to block the chasing player took great awareness and footy smarts. He's no physical giant, but he makes up for it with smart decisions. If Ratts and the other coaches don't make mention of this they have no idea :thumbsup: .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:22 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
blu944 wrote:
Why doesn't Jake Edwards get some of the attention? or Adam Hartlett? Guys who have sat on the list and done bugger all to improve their game?
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Because they are not a first round draft pick nor are they constantly rewarded for less than immpressive performences.

If anything, you have to ask just why it is they get dropped after on bad game yet Russell continues to be favourited by Ratts?

I did have great hopes for Jake Edwards, but he's development stalled quite suddenly. :-(

Hartlett i was never really that impressed with, but i suppose injuries may have taken their toll with him.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:59 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
He played well, no doubt about it. Wish there were more of it.

Everything is amplified with JR. Anytime he makes a mistake it's plastered with big neon letters "JR SUX!!!", while on the flipside anytime he has a decent quarter (or kicks a goal for that matter) it's a big ol love-in.

God forbid if we praise a player for doing well. :yikes:

Yet all the Russell nay sayers couldn't wait to tell everyone that they were right with the call to drop Jordan. :wink:

JR has had 20 possession games before, but this one feels different after he played a huge part in our comeback.

...Like he's stepped up another gear and was hungrier after being dropped.

7 tackles. :clap:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:09 pm 
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Laguna wrote:
'snip'


C'mon mate. Grow up would you.

I'm debating and arguing the topic at hand and your coming out with personal attacks and a rolling eyes emoticon.
If you've got something to say (that is within the current argument) then by all means say it.

But if not, then please move on.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:21 pm 
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He worked bloody hard yesterday and never stopped trying.....his best game this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Man I'm glad I don't barrack for West Adelaide over here, what with JR & Harts from there....

I'd go into a bloody meltdown every time I opened up TC if that was the case :grin:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:18 pm 
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Juddanaught09 wrote:
He was very good yesterday.

Maybe save the baggings for when the poor bloke puts in a bad game?



Yeah I agree, why bag him when he was one of our best? [edit]


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:32 pm 
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Instrumental in getting us back into the match, couple of efforts on the wing with some gut-busting running that led to a goal. Kicked a nice goal himself. Had a couple of turnovers, but wasn't the only one. Played a good game and will still be in the seniors next week before all the discussion about how he has to be dropped starts.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
timetodeliver2004 wrote:
Instrumental in getting us back into the match, couple of efforts on the wing with some gut-busting running that led to a goal. Kicked a nice goal himself. Had a couple of turnovers, but wasn't the only one. Played a good game and will still be in the seniors next week before all the discussion about how he has to be dropped starts.


Even with his efforts to get us back in the match, people will call for him to be dropped for Stevens or Scotland.


Won't be dropped on that performance. But should have been dropped a many a time for previous non existent performances. Must keep making him accountable, maybe this will help bring out some better performances.

Stevens and Scotand should stay in the twos for now. I'd bring in some heart and pace...whoever has these two attributes and has earned a spot can come in.

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