In fairness to Fev, he's our #1 forward and thats his space. This is more an issue of our forwards learning to keep out of each others way so they're leading into space and able to play one out.

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Did you see the incident in question? Coz i had a birds eye view.

Ball came in high and Stanta clearly had the sit and was marking everything up until that point. Fev ran 30 meters just to get to the contest, so not only did he drag his opponent (when he could have left Irish one out) to the ball but he also went in with no regard for his own teammate knee first into his back.

Ball spilled pears took it up the ground and the kicked a goal. Fev with his usual hands on his head feeling sorry for himself and Setanta in serious pain.

Dumb, Selfish inexusble from a so called leader of the club.

He is 28. Watch how Brown or Lloyd protect their teammates when the ball comes in. Its all about Fev always has been always will be.

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Talk about over reactive nuts assessing the best full forward we have had in 50 years. Who do you think you will replace him with. He has his downside its true .. but come on ... really .. get rid of him ... whats he kicked 40 goals this year ... 99 last ... 70 the year before ... you guys are nuts.

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You must be trippin Brad. If Fevola had half a brain he would have seen Setanta had it over Lovett-Murray and kept his man out of the contest. The bloke's a fool, I'm sick of his pathetic attitude, either he has no brain or he's a wanka or both, either way, it's time to go Brendan.

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Setanta was actually kicking goals, maybe more than Fev at that stage of the match...No-one's indispensable! There are other options. Play him up the ground? A spell in the Ants? When he had a crook foot why did we still have to play him and let him let the team down with his antics. Refusing the coach's instructions has big ramifications. IMO that alone dis qualifies him from "best full forward we have had in 50 years." Jezza was miles better than this guy.
How things can change. Seeing Madden on TV today deputising for the Premier you remember when he was warming the bench in the reserves and Elliot was President (not sure it was at the same time).

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In two years time we should ship Fev and Judd up to the Gold Coast and reap the draft pick rewards.

I ask one question. How confident would you be going into a game without Brendan Fevola as our focal point? Keeping in mind that he draws the best defender from the opposing team every week.
The inclusion of Warnock and Walker in coming weeks will change the forward set up. Fevola will be the perfect decoy as the likes of Kruezer and even Walker can slot into that forward line. Then we have Fast Eddie and Fish roaming around as well and we suddenly look very potent and less predictable.

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You do the trade because of his age. Realistically has 50 to 80 games left in his body.
You want to know that your number 3 pick is not speculative. You want a Daniel Rich/Hurley/Selwood 200 games.
You don't trade him because of his personality issues which are blown out of proportion. 70 plus forwards are a rarity
His biggest problem is his run up has become staggered and has lost momentum coming to the follow through
Also you can not carry extra 5kg in your late 20s. He needs to get back to last years playing weight

We got Judd to be a role model to younger players and Fev is there to kick goals providing we can give him some half decent service, Full forwards are a different kind of animal than other players and they dont make good role models so lets lower our expectations...having another key forward as another option wouldnt go astray either.....I can undertsand when he gets frustrated...he makes a lead, gets away from the double/triple team defenders and then we cant make the pass....Judd excepted. Ratten said he would change this one man forward line concept but has been about as successful as Lyn Kosky trying to make a Connex train run on time..maybe when Warnock appears and Kruezer can spend some more time down forward we may get better results.

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We are stuck with him until he is finished club does not have balls to get rid of him
just like Richmond with richo

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Would WCE have taken Fevola as part of the Judd trade?

I doubt they'd have been that dumb...

We should have kept Kennedy who didn't want to leave and bled navy blue.

Kennedy isn't as talented, but looks mobile, selfless and skilled in tonight's game.

Mobile, selfless and skilled? All that with just one touch so far in the half?

Like the Kosky analogy. The rail infrastructure has to be replaced and so does Fevola at full forward.
Sure Judd is a great role model but Fevola does his utmost to influence every player in the team.

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I've never seen Riewoldt, Brown, Pav, Hall, Buddy take a speccy over their teammates......never!!!
FFS Fev, don't you know we're playing netball. No contact allowed.

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I think a trade is food for thought. He still has at least 4 seasons left given he hasnt had serious injuries over his career. And he still has trade value. It is not too late to trade him. I'd expect at least a first rounder and maybe a 2nd rounder as well considering Hawthorn got that for flower Nathan Thmopson

Both - the two conditions are most certainly not mutually exclusive!

sarcasm is best utilised with a light touch.

If he has 50-80 games left why are Gold Coast going to give us more than a 2nd round pick, let alone a #3 pick?

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No young developing team is going to take on a head case like Fevola. The only chance for a trade is a team that needs a top up for finals - maybe Bulldogs, Richmond & North might be stupid enough

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It's to late to trade away Fev now.

I'd love Josh Kennedy back at the club. This kid wanted to play for the not so mighty Blues and it was taken away from him.

Fev, Kennedy, Waite, Walker, Betts and Garlett (possibly Yarran) would tear teams apart. Kennedy is a genuine CHF who knows how to play the position not a make shift one. Fev and Setanta was an absolute mess on friday night

but do keep in mind we have a Queenslander on our list who is coming along nicely........ Remember this post!!!!! nudge nudge.