I admit I've found it concerning how the boys that have been put back to the ants haven't seemed to set the world on fire. Guys who had shown promise such as Jackson, Pfeiffer, Edwards have seemed to go backwards when deprived of a senior spot, and may not last the journey. Whether or not this is due to the coaching, I can't say.

But I agree that (and felt this way at the beginning) that coaching the reserves AND playing AND being a development coach for the seniors is too much for 2 people to take on, and we need guys who can make each of these things their focus. I also felt that while Teague was a good choice, I was unsure of Lappin as a development coach mainly because of his less than sqeaky image off the field.

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Lappin should have won the 2004 B&F instead of Teague. Cant see how they could ;possibly work together after that debacle

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Yes they are fantastic, but I would prefer them not playing in the VFL.

100% agree

I have said for a while

Our reserves system is shit


Have a stand alone team playing games at Princess Park rather than shit hole Cramer St


Lappin elsewhere getting a kick which prevents him monopolising games and imparting more responsibility on the younger kids


A non playing coach.No offence to Teague who has shown he can do the job well but he is another mature body out there who is stopping a kids development.
The 12/10 rule is a farce. I understand why we need it but a AFL listed player might as well play for the Geelong and District Footy League such is the standard of footy there

Some players simply didnt kick on this year. Too many in my opinion

Teague seems excellent value. Calm and precise in his instructions and positive as a rule.
He chooses 2 or 3 valid points and ensures they are highlighted. Anything more than that and the players switch off.
His approach is just what we need in a development role. The days of the ranting and raving coach are well and truly gone.

As for Lappin, I loved him as a player but I dont see the attraction as a coach. You want your developing players operating within a reasonably strict framework to fast track their progress ie. playing the team game, learning whats required to be value to a "team structure."
Too often Lappin plays on instinct as he's always done which made him a great player but not a good role model IMO.
Unfortunately you cant tell kids not to take shots from the boundary or fly from 3 deep in a marking contest if their coach is doing it.

If a playing coach isn't setting the required example, he shouldn't be in the role IMO.

Hopefully the FD are seeing something I'm not.

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Rome wasnt built in a day

Development is incremental and our system will be tweaked, supported and improved until it is up there with the best.

If we had better prospects for the job they would have been employed.

As Cazz said, Teague and Lappo are learning as are the kids they are in charge of.

Give them all a little time to learn their trade

I wouldn't think so.
This isn't a coaches learning centre.

If they are the best for the job, thats great, retain them. If not, move them on and get the best.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Obvious way to go.

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Keep them on but add Diesel to oversee the whole operation .

What evidence is there to suggest that Diesel has the experience and teaching ability to provide back-up to Teague? If Diesel has the ability to pass on his skills to the youngsters, then he'd be great. But often footballing freaks can't do that. He might be able to talk to equals such as Judd, but that doesn't suggest he can haul 2nd tier youngsters up to senior readiness. There's no doubt that he's great for marketing purposes - having a leading member of our last premiership team as an assistant coach reassures the masses that the youngsters will learn the Carlton way. But is there substance as well as imagery there?

On the other hand, we might be able to secure someone who isn't Carlton, and who might not be a past great player, but he might be an elite teacher and coach. That might be better.

I would say that Brett Ratten is learning on the job

maybe we have too many coaches learning on the job at the same time...

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At the risk of repeating myself, Bomber Thompson said on the weekend that because the following 4 or 5 drafts will be compromised, existing clubs will need to be very good at teaching the lesser talented players. I don't think it's too much coincidence that Thompson's comments came at the same time eyebrows were raised that Hartlett and Edwards were re-signed. What's crucial now, is that Carlton have the best possible assistant coaches to extract the best possible developmental results from these types of players. Are our current coaches up to the challenge?

Why do you think Thompson is commenting on us signing Hartlett and Edwards?

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No, not at all.

I'm saying that what he says makes sense, and it ties in with the Blues re-signing Harts and Jake.

I would put it to you that learning is a process that never ends........until u croak.

I would worry more if we had coaches that thought there was nothing left to learn

If you don't think he's commenting on us specifically...then it is a coincidence.

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Essendon* has lured Alan Richardson away from the pies and has snared Paul Hamilton from Adelaide Crows.

http://carltonfc.com.au/News/NewsArticl ... wsId=67808

Two of the most highly regarded people in football in terms of development and sport science.

What happened to Carlton poaching the best and only the best.

Me thinks the footy department hasn't got the kind of money to spend like the pies and Essendon* do

The reason why Brett Ratten was awarded the job. He and his mates doing a band aid job at cut price

Again not sure who is running the show down at VISY park but for i know they have no idea.

David Teague & Matty Lappin.... who are we kidding

I think finically the blues have a long way to go. Most clubs are spending more on there footy departments in 2009 and with this major redevelopment its going to cost us plenty of $$$ to fit it out