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Sometimes this board is just plain hilarious.


"Rating Greg Swan (sic)". Thread of the century.

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Fevola's Federation photo ops fluff Fevola fans for Fevola's further photo ops in Footy Show's fealty to flowering filth fiefdom :roll: :evil: :wink:

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i wonder . . .

rumor file on 3AW this morning raised the item that a certain club was having some meetings about behaviour during Mad monday that could see a player sacked.

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Probably Nathan Carroll from Melbourne I reckon as he is uncontracted and has had heaps of issues.

No way would Fev be sacked just because of this.......


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Probably Nathan Carroll from Melbourne I reckon as he is uncontracted and has had heaps of issues.

No way would Fev be sacked just because of this.......


Agree.

And I just dedleted the negative diatribe I wrote about Fevola...no point going back there. Suffice to say he could do with reading a book by Daniel Goleman called Emotional Intelligence.

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Good work Siegfried............!


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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.

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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


Do you honestly think he was running the show at Collingwood, Clayman?

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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


A lesson in life - "don't promise what you can't deliver".

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spot on DownUnderChick. That is no doubt why he jumped ship so readily to come to carlton. Because Pratt was giving him real power and not making him share it with Eddie who as he has shown, tends to ride in and out on his horse as he sees fit.

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I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


You still have not told us what you wanted Greg Swan to do? You need to spell it out. What actions did he not take which has lost him credibility with the players in relation to Fevola.

Greg Swan has lost credibility with the playing group because ......


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Probably Nathan Carroll from Melbourne I reckon as he is uncontracted and has had heaps of issues.

No way would Fev be sacked just because of this.......


No. Definitely not.

But I would be shaming the guy for giving the media and the rest of the footy public the ammunition.

He's putting himself in a position where he could be a scapegoat. I don't want that. I want him playing football for my club. I want him in the locker room showing our younger blokes the lighter side of football.

If the AFL goes down the same path as the NFL (with regard to players bringing the brand image into disrepute) Fev will be one of the first heads on the chopping block.

I hope to christ it doesn't happen, but the way this government is going, there will be pressure on major sporting codes to step up their efforts in the wider social sense.

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But I would be shaming the guy for giving the media and the rest of the footy public the ammunition.


The blame lays wholey and soley with the club and not the individual. The club is fully aware of the event and I would imagine it goes to great lengths to control it. They hire people to supervise the players and the supervisors were either poorly instructed or not doing there job. They knew that Fev, Judd, Gibbs etc. etc. would get pissed and as a result some of the players would not have a good awareness of what was right or wrong.


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Greg Swann....gun operator; and we're lucky to have him.

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Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


No its not. You're on record saying you want Fevola gone, now he's in the news for something very minor and you want Swann to act on it.

This thread is about getting rid of Fev.

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


No its not. You're on record saying you want Fevola gone, now he's in the news for something very minor and you want Swann to act on it.

This thread is about getting rid of Fev.


What is Swan on record saying?

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Clayman wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
I dont think this thread is really about Greg Swann.

Has more to do with getting rid of Fev.


A little bit more than that. It is growth and profits versus handling of player issues.

At Collingwood I would say he didn't handle Tarrant & Didak very well amongst others.

I really think we shouldn't have CEO's making comments on players that will not be backed up with actions.


No its not. You're on record saying you want Fevola gone, now he's in the news for something very minor and you want Swann to act on it.

This thread is about getting rid of Fev.


You are the one making it to be about Fevola so quit it please. :-D

This thread was about Swan making outlandish statements until you tried to shake the branch where the bee hive was active. The quote that Swan made was aimed at Fevola and if it was Nick Stevens OR Chris Judd or Wiggins (well maybe not :wink: ) then I would have created the very same thread.

Taff is spot on - Don't promise what you can't deliver.

For the record TruBlueBrad if Fev was sacked for this incident then I would be shocked. He was inappropriate but it isn't sackable.

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Wasn't it stated when the Fevola contract was negotiated that there would be no 'special' caveats binding to Fev, as mentioned during the year; ie Swans position that Fev was on his last legs if another alcohol related situation which brought the club into disrepute?

In fact the AFLPA's position on this was that every AFL player is bound by the same code of conduct.

If I recalled that correctly, then I would suggest that Swan's comments were superceded by the new contract!

I'm sure I heard that in the media and not directly from Swan, but if that is true then Swan is certainly not 2 faced, and has stuck to the contract.

Swan has integrity, regardless of what one wishes to believe.

As far as the CEO being involved in player management issues, I don't have a position on that. Having said that, I would prefer someone else made player related comments and that the CEO sticks to the business of running the footy business; that way someone else can be the fall guy and not the all too important Carlton CEO when player issues become contentious.

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"Don't promise what you can't deliver" ???

If Fev being a clown on Mad Monday isn't worth sacking him over then what isn't Swann delivering?

You guys make no sense.


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FFS.....Fev walked 20 metres from a pub to the team bus.....big deal!

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