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blue sombero, I don't believe there is a great deal of difference between finishing 2nd or 3rd.

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He needs 5 goals every game for the next 5 games. Can he do it?
He can turn it on against any team, even the Crows so it’s not beyond him. I’m DEFINITELY going to the dawks game!
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Could have 2 guys bring up the 100 in one game, has that ever happened before?

I think in the era of Hudson/Wade/Mckenna/Jezza it might have happened.
Not in recent times. About two years ago, thepundits were saying the era of 100 goal FF was over due to the flood etc.
Funny thing, that. At one stage they were saying Fev, Buddy and Bradshaw were all a show this year. If Buddy decides to kick straight one of these weeks he's going to get an even dozen and Fev had a haul of 6-5 recently so he could easliy get 10 on a good day. Trouble is the opposition. We will be hard pressed to win against Hawthorn and Brisbane. Port maybe and we haven't beaten North for an eon so I think Fev will be up against it.
There is always the possibility that if the Rd22 game against Hawthorn isn't critical to their final 4 position, win or lose, that they will rest some players or protect them against injury for the finals. In that case we might get an unlikely win and Fev might kick a bag. On the other hand, if they need to win by 100 points to pip the Dogs for second place, we might be in for a tough night. In that case Fev mighn't get too many shots.
I'm sure Fev won't want to be going into Rd 22 needing about 6 for the ton... It might upset the team goals if the players want to get him to 100. The answer is to get there by Rd 21 :-D
If he can get a bag of 8 somewhere then I think he can get it. He's gone 5,6,5 the last 3 weeks ,enough to get there if keeps that up,but he' may have a 2 or 3 one game coming at some stage. That's why a big bag would be handy to cover it.


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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Adam Chatfield wrote:
marciblue wrote:
He needs 5 goals every game for the next 5 games. Can he do it?
He can turn it on against any team, even the Crows so it’s not beyond him. I’m DEFINITELY going to the dawks game!
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Could have 2 guys bring up the 100 in one game, has that ever happened before?

I think in the era of Hudson/Wade/Mckenna/Jezza it might have happened.
Not in recent times. About two years ago, thepundits were saying the era of 100 goal FF was over due to the flood etc.
Funny thing, that. At one stage they were saying Fev, Buddy and Bradshaw were all a show this year. If Buddy decides to kick straight one of these weeks he's going to get an even dozen and Fev had a haul of 6-5 recently so he could easliy get 10 on a good day. Trouble is the opposition. We will be hard pressed to win against Hawthorn and Brisbane. Port maybe and we haven't beaten North for an eon so I think Fev will be up against it.
There is always the possibility that if the Rd22 game against Hawthorn isn't critical to their final 4 position, win or lose, that they will rest some players or protect them against injury for the finals. In that case we might get an unlikely win and Fev might kick a bag. On the other hand, if they need to win by 100 points to pip the Dogs for second place, we might be in for a tough night. In that case Fev mighn't get too many shots.
I'm sure Fev won't want to be going into Rd 22 needing about 6 for the ton... It might upset the team goals if the players want to get him to 100. The answer is to get there by Rd 21 :-D


Yes no difference between 2nd or 3rd, and unless Hawthorn have a draw before we play them, percentage can't come into it (unless they draw against us of course).

Also - Jezza didnt win the Coleman, there was no Coleman until 1982 I think.

Regardless of anything Fev will have the biggest goalkicking season by a Carlton player since Jezza.


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The Coleman started in 1954.

Carlton had actually had 4 league leading goalkickers to that point; and we've won 2 Colemans. Tom Carroll and Brendan Fevola.

Jezza didnt win the Coleman because others kicked more than him that year, not because it wasn't around.

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Who has the best six year average for a Carlton player? Fevola is nudging 70 (Avg of 66.83 to date over the past six years).


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Who has the best six year average for a Carlton player? Fevola is nudging 70 (Avg of 66.83 to date over the past six years).


Whilst there is a limit to how many pages we can have verbs, (and you're always welcome back to help out - we're looking forward to your revamped the sacking of Robert Walls page), we'd suggest Vallence 1931-1936 at an average of about 75 per year is the record holder.

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Who has the best six year average for a Carlton player? Fevola is nudging 70 (Avg of 66.83 to date over the past six years).


Whilst there is a limit to how many pages we can have verbs, (and you're always welcome back to help out - we're looking forward to your revamped the sacking of Robert Walls page), we'd suggest Vallence 1931-1936 at an average of about 75 per year is the record holder.

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That's an interesting rough stat you've come up with there. Fevola will be just short of 70 by season's end, and that's not very far behind Vallence at all. I've been checking out Kernahan, and he was more a CHF than a FF but Fev seems to be just pipping him at the moment.

I'd prefer he has one huge game in the next four weeks and rounds off the year with 100 goals.


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Who has the best six year average for a Carlton player? Fevola is nudging 70 (Avg of 66.83 to date over the past six years).


Whilst there is a limit to how many pages we can have verbs, (and you're always welcome back to help out - we're looking forward to your revamped the sacking of Robert Walls page), we'd suggest Vallence 1931-1936 at an average of about 75 per year is the record holder.

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... H+Vallence

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That's an interesting rough stat you've come up with there. Fevola will be just short of 70 by season's end, and that's not very far behind Vallence at all. I've been checking out Kernahan, and he was more a CHF than a FF but Fev seems to be just pipping him at the moment.

I'd prefer he has one huge game in the next four weeks and rounds off the year with 100 goals.


We take 'interesting' as a compliment so thanks.

Given Vallence has 5 of the top 10 years by a Blue (Fev 2, Sticks 2, jezza 1), it is a fair bet that he would have most of these averages down pat. That being said he suffered in some years from illness and injury so you're bound to be able to arrange a stat that says Fev is up there... try a 3-year stat from 2006?

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I chose the six year stretch because some journalist did during the past week or two, but it's a certainly a long time-frame to be averaging 70 or 75 goals a year. Two more 85+ years for Fevola could see him have a run of six years averaging around 75 goals a year.

With the new contract, and a good run with injuries, should end with at least one 100 year and the all-time greatest scorer by career's end I'd suspect.


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This could be one of the top 2 or 3 best years ever by a Carlton forward - that's pretty impressive. Imagine - if Fev gets 8 this week for arguments sake, it would already be the third best performance by a Carlton player in our history.


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With the additional 4 Fev moves to 84, equalling his best ever.

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... ticleId=77

Fev only needs 3 more to move into third spot on Carlton's all time best goalkicking effort in a season,

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Fev's 6 last weekend puts him at 90 goals and a clear third place in the best ever performance by a Blue:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... ticleId=77

Over the next 2 weeks it will be fascinating to see how he goes - there is the big target of a ton ahead but if he kicks 7 he will equal Vallence's best ever effort of 97, scored way back in 1932. One more he moves into second best ever by a Blue.

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With 2 on the weekend, he'll need 5 to equal Vallence in second spot on Carlton's all time record list for a season.


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I hope the Blueseum recognises somewhere Fevola's effort of passing off the ball to Stevens when he had just taken a mark 45M out in front.

For someone on 90 goals to do that is the ultimate team act.

Fev has his detractors, but even they should acknowledge an effort like that. This might be the only chance he gets in his life to kick 100 goals in a season and he was only thinking of the team.

Also, drove through bacchus marsh today and noticed in one of the new estates on the edge of town there is now a Harry Vallence St, nice recognition for a local lad. :-D

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I'm really impressed if he sacrificed his game and aim for 100 goals for the team.

Can't ask any more of a player than to give their all for their teammates.

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Fev's AVG's against the next 4 opponents.


PORT - 2.66 goals.

NORTH - 4 goals

LIONS - 2.54 goals

HAWKS - 4 goals.



Fev's AVG's at the grounds.


GABBA - 0.57 goals
DOME - 3.38 goals.
Gonna be tough, but i reckon he can do it provided we deliver it to him correctly.
Yes, but that delivery also depends on his despatching! Maintained the v Blions average today, and upped his @ Gabba average ... won't kick the ton this year coz he needs a bag of 8 next week .. that's both the averages of v Hawks and @ Dome ... which isn't normally how it works ... but still, 90+ isn't a bad outcome!

Just on the team-act from Jars, I reckon he could improve both the chance of getting a ton and a flag in a year by keeping his temper in check!

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Robert Walls will be shitty that Fev is climbing the Carlton goalkickers table, he appears to hate Fev with a passion.


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Would be staring 150 in the face next week if it wasn't for the Fevola persecution society, AKA the AFL umpires.

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I hope the Blueseum recognises somewhere Fevola's effort of passing off the ball to Stevens when he had just taken a mark 45M out in front.


Good point Jarusa - have you registered on the site?

Our count down article has been refreshed; as per this thread Fev needs 5 next week to be equal second with Vallence on Carlton's all time goal-kicking in a season list:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-read_artic ... ticleId=77

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Would be staring 150 in the face next week if it wasn't for the Fevola persecution society, AKA the AFL umpires.


Agree, there was one incident in the third quarter where Fevola chased down a brisbane player on the wing. It was a legitimate tackle - 100% legitimate- but he was paid a free kick against him for a "late" tackle. As in using the Fev. cannot tackle blokes as he is too physical rule.

Fev. won't get to the 100 as they were using him as a decoy forward.

Cloke was the primary target.


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