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Add a fit Hartlett to our side will make a huge difference and change the dynamics of our forward line.


disagree with that, from what i've seen of hartlett in the carlton team, he hasn't shown any where near enough to say he'd make a huge difference and change the forward line.


I disagree with with that.

He is the kind of player we don't have. He has a bit of mongrel, can take a strong grab, is quick, is a good height, bigger body than Fisher.

He can offer far more than Wiggo and Fisher right now. He could be used as a hit up target at CHF or just as handy 40 meters out or in the goal square.

Throw in a fit and firing Walker and an on song Fev and all of a sudden we have a different a far more versatile and dangerous setup


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Melvey wrote:
shuffagus wrote:
mjonc wrote:
Add a fit Hartlett to our side will make a huge difference and change the dynamics of our forward line.


disagree with that, from what i've seen of hartlett in the carlton team, he hasn't shown any where near enough to say he'd make a huge difference and change the forward line.


I disagree with with that.

He is the kind of player we don't have. He has a bit of mongrel, can take a strong grab, is quick, is a good height, bigger body than Fisher.

He can offer far more than Wiggo and Fisher right now. He could be used as a hit up target at CHF or just as handy 40 meters out or in the goal square.

Throw in a fit and firing Walker and an on song Fev and all of a sudden we have a different a far more versatile and dangerous setup

is he injured atm?

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shuffagus wrote:
Melvey wrote:
shuffagus wrote:
mjonc wrote:
Add a fit Hartlett to our side will make a huge difference and change the dynamics of our forward line.


disagree with that, from what i've seen of hartlett in the carlton team, he hasn't shown any where near enough to say he'd make a huge difference and change the forward line.


I disagree with with that.

He is the kind of player we don't have. He has a bit of mongrel, can take a strong grab, is quick, is a good height, bigger body than Fisher.

He can offer far more than Wiggo and Fisher right now. He could be used as a hit up target at CHF or just as handy 40 meters out or in the goal square.

Throw in a fit and firing Walker and an on song Fev and all of a sudden we have a different a far more versatile and dangerous setup

is he injured atm?


Bullants thread he injured himself and went straight into the rooms.


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Would like MC to consider adding browne and kruiser to forward set up. Add either hampson or Jacobs to assist in ruck duties, and leave Kruiser as FF, pushing fev to CHF.

Leaving kruise up forward, whilst adding another ruckman, should prevent sides pushing their resting ruck into their forward line. See advantage for kruiser conserving his body in the ruck contests whilst hopefully adding confidence up forward.

Browne has a strong overhead mark and can kick in excess of 45m accurately. I liken his ability to that of medhurst. He also has a very strong defensive side to his game, could help tag out running half back flankers.

Question to ask, do we stick with both edwards and fisher? playing side by side, or do switch or rotate through the bench? Edwards did show signs of pushing back in defence, did ok. Could it be that when required edwards may be the player which allows waite to push forward whilst edwards fills the void. An almost three way rotation?

Also consider rotating some midfielders through the half forward line, in particular stevens. I think this could encourage our midfielders to become more goal orientated. Teams which score through the midfield are very hard to manage, especially if they have two other key position forwards capable of converting 40 to 50 out.

Interested in thoughts.

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The improvement was to come from the likes of Waitey, Fisher, T-bird, Simmo, Banno, Houla and Wiggo taking that next step.

Simmo has stagnated a little, T-bird hard to comment on as he was injured for a while and Waitey will never improve his kicking but no doubt are solid contributors

Unfortunately i cant see any improvement coming from Fisher nor Wiggo and Banno. We know what there best is, they have had plenty of time and chances but we will get nothing more out of them than we already Know and its not enough. The same goes with Houla he has his weaknesses, no sorry is weak..... enough said

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The key is the ruck. Look at the clearences stats for the games we lost. Everytime our immature / short ruck division comes up against a good ruck we have problems. We loose control of the ball. If I remember right Saints had 20 or so more clearences then we had. Against the Bombers Hille was part of the reason we lost.

I really think we need a "patch" i.e. a decent mature ruckman for the next 2 years if we want to play finals in 09/10. After that the ruck looks great with Kreuz, Hamster and Jacobs.....


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mikkey wrote:
The key is the ruck. Look at the clearences stats for the games we lost. Everytime our immature / short ruck division comes up against a good ruck we have problems. We loose control of the ball. If I remember right Saints had 20 or so more clearences then we had. Against the Bombers Hille was part of the reason we lost.


They had 41 hitouts to 24, but we had 36 clearances to St Kilda's 28.

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I really think we need a "patch" i.e. a decent mature ruckman for the next 2 years if we want to play finals in 09/10. After that the ruck looks great with Kreuz, Hamster and Jacobs.....


Warnock would be good...would prefer him to Brogan.


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Effes wrote:
mikkey wrote:
The key is the ruck. Look at the clearences stats for the games we lost. Everytime our immature / short ruck division comes up against a good ruck we have problems. We loose control of the ball. If I remember right Saints had 20 or so more clearences then we had. Against the Bombers Hille was part of the reason we lost.


They had 41 hitouts to 24, but we had 36 clearances to St Kilda's 28.

mikkey wrote:
I really think we need a "patch" i.e. a decent mature ruckman for the next 2 years if we want to play finals in 09/10. After that the ruck looks great with Kreuz, Hamster and Jacobs.....


Warnock would be good...would prefer him to Brogan.


Thx I stand corrected on the first point, but we still got smacked in the ruck until the 4th when we were just too far behind. I dont care who we get (the best available I guess) but we need t address this issue if we want to be in the mix with the top clubs.


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Mark Maclure was correct in that article,his a true blue man. I remember how good he was and remember him having a blinder against ST Kilda when we thrashed them like nearly 200 points one day in 1984 or 1985.


You must have a phenomenal memory.
You were 6 years old in 1985. :-D


Yeah but Mark Maclure was my favorite first Carlton player and i used to sit up to watch the winners after Countdown and watch Carlton play and had Sister tape it on Video.Tom Alvin and Peter Dean took over as my favorite later.

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