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He looked very good when he came on last week, so I don't think he is on the outter, unless Ratts has been eating strange mushrooms.

Suspect the club just don't want to risk anyone who has as much as a niggle right now. Might also want to have a look at some younger defenders - Bower, Jamison etc.

If you line them up against the wall, we actually have a surplus of tall defenders


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Haven't read the whole thread, but I heard a quick grab on SEN from Montgomery this morning, that they would be going for a smaller running side due to heat in Adelaide and the limited interchange rule.

We should be grateful that we have selection options.

Might explain it.


Yeah, but Saddo in the squad and aren't they gunning for the same spot. I know who's more "mobile" out of those two! Santy quicker than most of that squad. Not convinced.


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Maybe just maybe it means that where getting some depth and players like Setanta, who many of you still don't understand has a long way to go, needs to improve and get better before he gets into the team, even if it is a pre-season cup match! I would rather see Jamison, Hartlett, Edwards, Bower and Austin before Setanta at this stage.

GOOD MOVE RATTS. :-D


Austin and Edwards ahead of Setanta!? :lol: Good very young players that are hopefully on the rise, but neither would push Setanta out of the best 22 in the season proper. :roll:

Please get real everyone, there is no way he'll be left out of the 22 against the Tiges, unless of course he's injured!

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We've practically screamed for the club to rest some of our players and play the kids during the NAB Cup, and when it happens people are shocked and wonder if they've been dropped.

Unless our entire selection commitee collectively had a stroke this week there is no chance that players of the ilk of Jason Saddington would be named ahead of him if we were intent on picking our best players. If Setanta is fit and doesn't play in our Round 1 team I'll eat my shoes. He might have a small twing or we may just be giving him a bit of a break while we see what the kids can show us. Who knows? And unless its going to hurt his Round 1 chances who really cares? Certainly not me, and everyone else should feel the exact same way.


Well I don't know about everyone Andain :-D but I certainly share your sentiments. Not sure I'd go as far as eating my shoes though :P

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You don't rest guys who are learning how to play the game, let alone settle into a permenant position, you rest the players who know their role back to front and will benifit from the reduced workload.

I think that would be lovely in an ideal world but I don't think that we have that luxury with such a young list. As Montgomery said we have practically 3 years worth of guys to 'try out'. Since it's Rd 1 of the NAB Cup I think it's the perfect time for the kids to have a go. So I'm not worried about Setantas security in the side.


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not sure the coach rates carlos which may explain his absence


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If he's playing tonight then it would indicate he hasn't been selected.

If he isn't playing tonight it would indicate he may have an injury.

Unless of course the game's been cancelled. :oops:


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Tonight's game has been called off verbs. So we will just have to wait for next week I guess.


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wasthesonofapreacherman wrote:
Austin and Edwards ahead of Setanta!? :lol: Good very young players that are hopefully on the rise, but neither would push Setanta out of the best 22 in the season proper. :roll:

Please get real everyone, there is no way he'll be left out of the 22 against the Tiges, unless of course he's injured!


:lol: :P


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Hmmm on the one hand I get to have a lie in on sat morning which is badly needed as opposed to listening to match

On the other hand I hope sticksaftersiren87 is wrong. if he's not thats not good
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Kevin Bohane wrote:
Hmmm on the one hand I get to have a lie in on sat morning which is badly needed as opposed to listening to match

On the other hand I hope sticksaftersiren87 is wrong. if he's not thats not good
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If sas87 is right, something is very wrong.


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Setanta trained today but had one shoulder heavily strapped and was clearly favouring it.

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We've practically screamed for the club to rest some of our players and play the kids during the NAB Cup, and when it happens people are shocked and wonder if they've been dropped.


You don't rest guys who are learning how to play the game, let alone settle into a permenant position, you rest the players who know their role back to front and will benifit from the reduced workload.

Why the hell not? If he's had a tough preseason and our fitness staff felt he could do with another week without footy then why wouldn't they rest him. Just because he's irish doesn't mean that he does suffer from fatigue over a long season.


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No,because The Ansett Cup is a big joke,it really is.The Ansett Cup probably does more damage then good to senior players in my opinion.

There is all this rule changes that have nothing to do with the real season.

The team progressing into the 3rd and final weeks has a big disadvantage playing a game completely different to the season. The the teams that are out are preparing with the normal rules and not confusing the players.They don't have all this no kicking backwards in defence,interchange rules and so on.

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not sure the coach rates carlos which may explain his absence


Of course he doesn't! He wants 22 Houlihans on the park.

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Andain wrote:
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We've practically screamed for the club to rest some of our players and play the kids during the NAB Cup, and when it happens people are shocked and wonder if they've been dropped.


You don't rest guys who are learning how to play the game, let alone settle into a permenant position, you rest the players who know their role back to front and will benifit from the reduced workload.

Why the hell not? If he's had a tough preseason and our fitness staff felt he could do with another week without footy then why wouldn't they rest him. Just because he's irish doesn't mean that he does suffer from fatigue over a long season.


If our fitness staff can't schedule his preseason to ensure he gets as much footy into him as possible then something is wrong. Personally i think he would benefit much more from actual match time, then a few extra laps around princes park, but call me crazy.

If you are correct about him being slightly fatigued, he would have still played a half or so..... surely. He was injured. Accept it and move on.


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we will need Carlos against some of these tall forwardllines, like Ports last night.

If Carlos is fatigued or carrying the groin strain, he should be rested. No ifs, and no buts.

He will be playing in the first 22 when fit. Don't underestimate his ability; everyone is learning the game...this is the bigtime!!

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Maybe Setanta is well and truly over rated by most of us on this site. :wink:


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Have heard that some on the match committee think Setanta's development has hit a bit of wall in recent months. May not be in Ratts' best 22.

Don't know if I agree with this, or how they reach that conclusion with no footy played, but I'm just passing on what I've heard (Source rating - 6.5-7.0 out of 10)

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simonverbeek wrote:
Have heard that some on the match committee think Setanta's development has hit a bit of wall in recent months. May not be in Ratts' best 22.

Don't know if I agree with this, or how they reach that conclusion with no footy played, but I'm just passing on what I've heard (Source rating - 6.5-7.0 out of 10)


i have said it for so long now Aisake will be better than setanta.


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Rambo Stallone wrote:
No,because The Ansett Cup is a big joke,it really is.The Ansett Cup probably does more damage then good to senior players in my opinion.

There is all this rule changes that have nothing to do with the real season.

The team progressing into the 3rd and final weeks has a big disadvantage playing a game completely different to the season. The the teams that are out are preparing with the normal rules and not confusing the players.They don't have all this no kicking backwards in defence,interchange rules and so on.


Non sequitur or whatever they call it? :?

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