There were some very talented players in both the 86 & 87 reserves premiership sides.
But I recall Robert Walls saying that following our victory in the seniors in 87, on the ground amid the celebrations, Wes Lofts congratulated him on coaching the LEAST TALENTED Carlton side to ever to win a premiership. Interesting comment, but when you recall how we struggled after 88 , it was accurate.

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Agro, have checked with the Guru and you are 100% correct. This page has been created to clarify this point and cross-references corrected.

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Now that I have re-established my credentials and bona fides.

Can some one let me back onto the site as my username and password dont seem to be working. (unless I have locked myself out -

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Next time you try to log in tick the 'remember me' box just under the login form before you press submit. Hopefully this should work.

This should be the same for pretty much everubody since the site was rebuilt after the hack attack.

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Yep - thanks that works.

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Looking up the archives of my dear departed mother (BLue Momma's) contribution to Talking Carlton, spent my childhood roaming Princes Park until wee hours as my parents socialised with the Carlton staff, players and supporters, luv ya' mum.

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I think phil poursanidis kicked a bag In the 87 gf - 8 or 9?

I remember walking out onto the middle of the MCG with my Dad, as we both worked as statisticians for the reserves, a memorable day of celebrating a premiership.

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What irritates me about this team is the number of guys who didn't QUITE make it, often because of injury.
Richard Foster had pace but didn't do a lot afterwards.
Paul Starbuck was around the edges for ages but ended up playing his only senior game for someone else.
Ian Herman didn't quite make it after looking pretty good.
Peter Rohde went to Melbourne.
Mark Williams fiddled around the edges.
Phil Poursanidis really looked good, but was gone soon afterwards.
Mark Edwards just disappeared.
Robert Miller was a little slow, but a great mark.
Andrew Phillips was crippled by injury.
Rhino O'Sullivan was ruined by injuries.
Wayne Harmes was on the way out. So was Jimmy Buckley. With modern training methods and medical staff those 2 could have played at least another 50 games each.

This lineup was one most other clubs would have killed for back then. In fact, our present side would look less than impressive compared to this lineup. We would kill to have forwards as good as Silvagni and Ralph and true rovers like Ashman and Marcou! Even Jamie Dunlop in the ruck would hold his own against most modern rucks.