An Interesting Read

Some interesting VFL perspectives in this thread.

I really thought there might have been some marketing opportunities and well as real development benefits to going it alone in the VFL at Princes Park.

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The disappointment could be something which is bearable if there's the probability that we're looking at going alone in 2009, and that shoring up the quality of the seniors side is the first step, followed by the resurrection of a Carlton VFL side to aid development.

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According to the thread I linked to above it is a five year deal.

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Pah. Like I'm going to bother reading that!

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It doesn't matter where you go does it? I can understand the feelings of the bullants faithful at what could be seen as a takeover. BUT - as the thread says, there were financial problems and they were a poor performing club. Now they're neither. I don't think a thankyou is in order, but some level-headed thought should see that the benefit of the club is served by the partnership. And Carlton needs to realise that the bullants should be left in a position where they COULD stand on their own but choose not to. Which would mean that the social/homeground posiyion is left there when carlton does eventually end the relationship. In my opinion...

I don't fully understand the benefits, pitfalls, whys and wherefors of the relationship with the Bullants, but after reading that thread it doesn't seem like there's much love coming from the red side of the fence.

Carlton needs to have some say over the way the Bullants is run for the obvious fact that a large part of our future is running around in their side, that's simply prudent management from our point of view.

Don't think I'll tick the Bullants membership box when I renew my Carlton membership in 2008 though.

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I know what you mean. It doesn't look like it would be appreciated in any way.

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I guess there's only one way to find out why they think what they think.

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Our players have developed pretty well individually, it's just that they haven't developed properly as a team. The appropriate person was sacked for that one.

Until a month ago he was'nt allowed near the players.
He couldnt attend training or even be around the football department.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Mitchell was coach of the Northern Bullants & not a CFC development coach, thanks to DP.

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I think you'll find he was in charge of player development.

Not a big fan of his. If he is Bullants coach and isnt one of the 2 development coaches, I can live with it. Would prefer he isnt involved at Carlton along with Libba

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Not so long ago someone actually suggested something very similar

The whole alignment issue, not surprisingly, seems to bring issues no matter who is involved. According to the thread below, on page 2, Collingwood are splitting from Williamstown...

http://www.vflfooty.com/modules.php?nam ... pic&t=1703

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Barry however has been instrumental in the Bullants move to PP.

His office is there of course, in the Legends stand, but with Brett they really want to be able to have access to the kids 'all' the time.

Apparently the Carlton off field arrogance is returning too.

Now Dick is back at the helm, we are treating the Ants like we did the Roys and the Hawks when they had 'paid the right' to use our ground.

This is all Ant music by the way!

Molly I hear what you're saying.

But...

After enduring year after year of clearly mind-bogglingly stupid decisions by previous regimes at our club, I'm not in the least surprised that our supporter base is somewhat cynical and a little gunshy when it comes to the decisions being made on our behalf.

Yes, the new board and Swann etc are clearly doing all the right things, and for that we should all be grateful. But I don't think you dismiss the effects of years of incompetence as easily as that.

The guys in charge now (with the usual caveat on the suitability of Sticks in any decision-making capacity) are deserving of our faith. But no-one should forget that it was a LACK of scrutiny on our part that led us into this mess, and an UNWILLINGNESS to accept sub-par performances that led the supporter base to turf Smogon out and pave the way for Mr.Pratt.

Considering how poorly our club was run over a decade at least, I think an overly negative perception from supporters is unavoidable.

Bring back zones Synbad ???? Could it be done ?Not would it but could it ?

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Not unhappy with the alliance continuing and most of the youngsters only have good things to say about Mitchell. Can understand not wanting to play at Cramer St as the surface was suffering through lack of water this year and Princes Park still has a great surface. Also I think that the Princes Park Social club would offer more opportunities to provide packages for sponsors of the Bullants.

Certainly a lot more communication between Mitchell and Ratten and the Bullants are really starting to get their act together. Financially they seem to have turned the corner and they are already establishing closer links with the local leagues and Northern Knights to allow a pathway and opportunites for young footballers. They obviously need to look at some form of water storage for the ground and if they can get a social club set up with pokies they will be off and running.

I think the big issue is not the Bullants or our own VFL side but the lack of a dedicated team to develop the youngsters. A group whose sole purpose is to hone and improve skills through individually aligned training. Our senior and reserve coaches jobs are to set strategies and win matches whilst developing the team not to spend an extra 5 hours per week with each player going over videos practising a particular skill and eradicating bad habits. We want our youngsters to step up into the senior team and look like they belong.

Number of AFL teams with a VFL affiliation to win a premiership = 0.

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Sandringham x 2, Jars. Affiliated with the Dees, yes?

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