bollocks, he had a number of kicks that where pin point on the weekend, that where well over 20m, that set up goals for us.

and he runs to space to create an option, he is not always used, but he, like Murphy, runs to the spaces to create an option, its one of his best attributes

seriously, i wonder what game some people watch at times.

but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, i just dont agree with yours Indie.

like i said

blackwell > bentick >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scotland

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Prefer Bentick but neither are long term options IMO.

Blackwell just doesn't do enough damage with his possesions and Bentick doesn't win enough of the ball in close to make up for his lack of pace and average footskills.

I think both can play and should be perservered with......Bentick is a one off at our club....genuine in and under who will put the body on the line and sacrifice for others. Isnt a show pony and thus doesnt get the plaudits of others. He had a couple of bad games where Sam Mitchell towled him up but Mitchell is the best in the business and I think Bentick is a good learner and will improve from that. I like players who can tackle and do the 1%ers and we dont have many who can.

Michael Braun , Scott Burns, Scott West, Mitchell, Jason Johnson, Daniel Harris are all examples of blue collar workers who do the hard yakka but aint flash and we need similar.

Blackwell has improved with maturity and just needs more senior game time....he is a natural ballwinner and I like the way he goes about it.
Disposal by foot isnt A grade but its getting better and when players like Gibbs get into full stride then its player like Blackwell and Bentick who will be providing Gibbs with the footy and we will be better for it...

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Blackwell is pretty unaccountable. Bentick is too slow. Maybe neither are good enough?

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Says to me they are at the same level, and that Blackers is ahead because he's only in his second year. At the same time Beno was just ahead but has hit his peak .. I vote Blackers but reserve the right to change my mind after (a) Blackers has hit 50 games and / or (b) he has played and maintained this level for four years ..

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MIL... here we go again with the "I'm a better Carlton supporter than you Bull Shit" because I don't agree with you.

I've just walked in from a hard days work to read the banter regarding the day's developments and this is what I cop.

I'm entitled to an opinion and have been a regular both here and on TBV since the time prior to us being penalized.

I am sick to flowering death of reading posts like yours having a go at people for posting an opinion, especially where thay are told to vacate the forum....In case you have forgotten....This is a public forum and forums are where people post personal opinions and chat about subjects of mutual interest. Without differences of opinion a forum would not be a forum.

I'll go as far as saying that I love this forum and that it is due to situations like this (mostly the way others are abused) why I am reluctant to post as often as I otherwise would.....but this obviously would suit you MIL.

Have a read of some of the other posts on this topic cos there are a few others with opinions similar to mine.

If you don't like someone's opinion why don't you just try to refrain from replying instead of taking the personal abuse option. I don't like stooping to this kind of reply but I'll be damned if I'm not going to attempt to stand up for myself.

I don't appreciate having my Blue Blood challenged by people who do not know me or know how much I've bled during the past five years.

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Scott, agree 100% about Scotland and I would take the other two before him. Somehow 'Scotto' seems to miss the microscope from both club and supporters. It's time we put the blowtorch on him.

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I don't know about anyone else but the willingness to drop into the hole and raking delivery by foot to the forward line wasn't lost on me.

Agree with the thoughts on Blackwell's nous, but you've lost me on Carrots & Scotland.

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20 ways to see the world,
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In so many depressing games this year; it's been Scotland who actually dared to attack from the half back line.....not incredibly talented or fleet of foot; he still puts in and actually tries to help the side.

Credit where credit's due.

Are you referring to Scotland?

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Warby, do you remember that pathetic effort against the Swans, when he let I think it was Ted Richards run into an open goal. The guy doesn't go hard enough at the contest, watch closely the next time he attempts to spoil. And giving a spray to every second teammate is not exactly helping the side IMHO.

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I'm not strictly a Scotland fan.....but walk a mile in his shoes with no one around him in our backline.....it's so very easy to criticise.

He is one of the very few mature players at Carlton left.....lets see how he goes under Ratts.

I'm not sure mature is the right description of him. I think he is definitely no backman, and he certainly is no leader. He is a negative influence on the team - remember pre-season?

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Yes....we won the NAB Cup......and I don't want to discuss Scotland any further....I've got more interesting things to do.

Both have at the very least another contract in them with Carlton. Both will be playing in the Navy Blue for IMO another 5 years.

Then lets judge them.

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Mate, I was referring to him and Lance taking out rookies to all hours in Bendigo, remember? And if you don't want to discuss Scotland, good luck to ya. He has to go.

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For pure effort, Bentick deserves to be at the club for another 4-5 years, but unless he's awareness and creativity clicks up a gear I doubt he'll make it past another two seasons. He isn't a great rover (in the sense he doesn't read the footy off hands all that well) and is too often second to the pill. But he is tough as nails and does all the 1%s. He's tackling is awesome.

Blackers on the other hand has the creativity and awareness, but just lacks the experience, size and penetration in his kicking. All of these things can be developed. He is a natural footballer so I see much more upside. Throw some bigger bodies around him and he will flourish. Definitely more chance of making it long term for mine.

As for Scotland, he is a really good footballer who has dropped his head this past year. If he doesn't lift his game and show the maturity that should come with he's years in the game and at the club, then piss him off for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. We need better than what he has been showing lately from a "senior" player. Last year and early this year I had a very high opinion of him. Lately he's just playing the blame game way too much. More positive voice from him and he can get back into my good books. As a raw footballer he has plenty of skills and a great footy brain. And when he's backing into leading forwards like he was doing earlier in the year he is a great asset.

I agree entirly with that whole post, and Blackwell and Bentick wont just be dishing it out to Gibbs they will be dishing it out to Murph, Walker and Carrots.

Moaty is a realist and honest ( and a fair judge).......and you seem to be one of those supporters that thinks every kid that pulls on a Carlton jumper is highly talented.

Bentick would have to be the worst regular centre square player in the leaugue and has no pace,no weapons in his game and very little upside.
He will not last long.
Blackwell has more talent but still needs to improve a lot to make the grade

Well they went head to head yesterday and Bentick's value is evermore diminishing (I've been told it was his worst game ever ). Only highlight for mine was the 40 m pass to Fev under pressure.

Blackers showed that with more work on his kicking he has the smarts to be a quality player for us. Tired late with a sloppy long kick, but other than that I was impressed. 11 possies to half time, although according to The Age he had 4 critical errors, the most for the match (can't be clangers, the pies had 24-3 at quarter time).

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.