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Yeah, but what's his goal ratio from 50m?


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Mark Spitz recently said that his swimming coach didn't know how to swim ... he knew how to coach other people to swim.

Vince Lombardi's quote makes sense ... if you take the practicing seriously then you are perfecting your practice. I see footballers have goal shooting practice and mix it up with a few laughs with the other lads ... do you crack a joke prior to shooting for goal in a game ? No, head down and practice properly.

I forget who it was but a basketballer in the USA had a goal shooting practice schedule every morning throughout his entire career.


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I wonder if Lloyd practices a dive, punches a dummy in the stomach, then throws the grass up for every shot at training?


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..yeah yeah, who gives a shit about mark allen anyway..?.. ..really, why bother employing someone to piss in the player's pocket, and then make them practive repetitive kicking a'la the basketball end of training drill.. ..really, it's painfully obvious with the modern game's emphasis on fitness, stamina and set plays from stoppages that kicking skills even with professional footballers hasn't improved greatly over the last few decades.. ..at the end of the day, all the fitness won't help poor kicking skills.. ..the players need to buckle down and practive their basic, general skills.. ..and it's that simple.. ..yer don't need to employ a guru for that..

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After years of confusion, conflicting opinions and overheated egos, the AFL developed a program based on the skill of kicking last year.
It is produced by Anton grbac who from memory is AFL Victorias director of coaching.

The program is used in junior development ranging from TAC down to Auskick. The program focusses on distance kicking, short passing and analysing basic technique.
IMO the common denominator in the technique of good goal kicking lies in the ability to replicate technique consistently. If you look at the better kicks of a footy, they repeat the same action every time.
Plugger, Fev, Lloyd etc. As a rule they will hold the ball the same, run the same amount of steps and guide the ball down the same (the most crucial aspect IMO)

The relationship with golf is actually a good one.
The bio mechanics of a kick can be analysed and complemented by someone who understands the factors. You dont neccesarily need to be a great kick (or golf player) yourself but you do need to understand the fundamentals.
As with golf, a good kick is determined by impact. If the ball correctly impacts the correctly aligned kicking leg correctly, the kick will inevitably be a good one. It doesnt matter if the ball (or golf club) is thrown into the air or spun around the head 3 times before hitting the boot. If everything is aligned at impact, the kick will work.

If someone can teach a player to get the relationship right at impact, they will be a good kicking coach. It doesnt matter if you've played 400 games or none.

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blueboy8 wrote:
BlueBern wrote:
"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."
- Vince Lombardi


Tell that to John Wilkes he practiced alot of hours every day



The bloke who shot Lincoln? :shock: :? :? :?


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Blue Vain wrote:
After years of confusion, conflicting opinions and overheated egos, the AFL developed a program based on the skill of kicking last year.
It is produced by Anton grbac who from memory is AFL Victorias director of coaching.

The program is used in junior development ranging from TAC down to Auskick. The program focusses on distance kicking, short passing and analysing basic technique.
IMO the common denominator in the technique of good goal kicking lies in the ability to replicate technique consistently. If you look at the better kicks of a footy, they repeat the same action every time.
Plugger, Fev, Lloyd etc. As a rule they will hold the ball the same, run the same amount of steps and guide the ball down the same (the most crucial aspect IMO)

The relationship with golf is actually a good one.
The bio mechanics of a kick can be analysed and complemented by someone who understands the factors. You dont neccesarily need to be a great kick (or golf player) yourself but you do need to understand the fundamentals.
As with golf, a good kick is determined by impact. If the ball correctly impacts the correctly aligned kicking leg correctly, the kick will inevitably be a good one. It doesnt matter if the ball (or golf club) is thrown into the air or spun around the head 3 times before hitting the boot. If everything is aligned at impact, the kick will work.

If someone can teach a player to get the relationship right at impact, they will be a good kicking coach. It doesnt matter if you've played 400 games or none.


Yeah, what he said.... brilliant


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