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Wrong forum for positivity, but here goes...


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I've hardly said a negative word about any players this year (I'll probably save that for the trade and draft later this year :P :wink: ) but all I seem to see is long vitriolic posts about how 'negative' the fans are and these posts are doing more to put a dampener on my day than any calls to sack Pagan, Whitnell and co. I was having a lovely quiet time until then now my ears hurt!!! :?

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Peanuts do flower as far as I remember, or is that more of a blossom? :?

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Why is it a problem to be critical of a player's performance? We're happy to have a go at other people at our club, so I don't understand why players are a protected species.

When our captain isn't performing to an expected standard, does that mean he's beyond criticism?

Over the last couple of months we've had wave after wave of positive comment, so I don't think some negative remarks are uncalled for.

Members shell out their money to support their team and that gives them the right to comment.

As Voltaire said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

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Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

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Peanuts do flower as far as I remember, or is that more of a blossom? :?


Maybe they blossom after a good flower, like the woman...

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Cazzesman wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

Regards Cazzesman


excellent post!


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Number19Tram wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

Regards Cazzesman


excellent post!


My post was in the context of the last five years (following on and agreeing with Josh's post who mentioned the last five years). I think it is amazing how positive our supporter base is considering the last five years. That is a good thing.

I think Caz has misinterpreted it as somehow putting all the blame on this weeks result. :?: :?:

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The reality is that ranting solves nothing. Having a tantrum will not make your team any better.

That said it feels good to have a bitch and a moan - it's very soul cleansing.

Personally though, I'd be happier if there was one big "rant" thread and leave the rest of the site to constructive or at least balanced discussion.


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Jarusa wrote:
Number19Tram wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

Regards Cazzesman


excellent post!


My post was in the context of the last five years (following on and agreeing with Josh's post who mentioned the last five years). I think it is amazing how positive our supporter base is considering the last five years. That is a good thing.

I think Caz has misinterpreted it as somehow putting all the blame on this weeks result. :?: :?:


Jarusa- I should add that I wasn't referring to your post. (I actually had interpreted your post as you have indicated). I was applauding Caz's reasoning for staying positive.


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Blue Vain wrote:
We've had threads criticising the players, threads critricising the coach and today we have thread criticising each other. :roll:

There is no "perfect" supporter. Unfortunately everyone copes with disappointment differently. It is difficult to accept some times but thats life.


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Cazzesman wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

Regards Cazzesman


Now there you go, being all rational and sensible again ...

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Josh Kaplan wrote:
I think we're turning into Richmond supporters solely due to impatience..
Its been 5 years of absolute hell- when the signs are slowly starting to go our way, we lose by 12 goals..
I dont think the supporters really dislike the players at all- inf act, I think everyone on here loves the players, its just so flower frustrating that after 5 years of absolute beltings we still serve up a performance like we did on Saturday night..

Its really a natural human reaction to vent- especially for success starved supporters over recent years.


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What are we supposed to do... clap the boys off the ground after a thumping loss like Dockers supporters do..Football is about winning ...The Carlton I grew up to know and loe doesnt accept second prize. Of course supporters are going to vent their anger when they se the captain of the Club, the so called leader of the team, embaressing himself week after week and having his pants pulled down by a first gamer on Saturday night.
I've been stomaching these thrashings for 5 years.. the excuses are now starting to wear thin.. God help Pagan in the Bombers give us a similar thrashing this Saturday.

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Cazzesman wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Yep, it is actually quite amazing how much positivity still remains amongst supporters.


Jars there really is no point in being all negative??? Annoyed and frustrated as supporters maybe but not negative if people think about it rationally.

It is not all 'Woe is me my God as forsaken me what should I do'.

The guys were flat and got punished by a decent team that has a few guys who can play alittle.

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

The Blues had been up for weeks. Several times they had come back from being well beaten and that takes it's toll. Eventually they mentally slipped 20% and paid the price in a tough competition.

Geelong has a far better list than CFC currently does and look at their up and down year in 2006. The Doggies were touted as a top 4 along with Freo this year and both struggled yesterday. Mental lapses cause blowouts. All teams have them. It happens whether we like it or not.

We are just a good ordinary team at the moment and we need everything to go right 99% of the time to win games. It's just not going to happen at the moment.

Regards Cazzesman


That about sums it up for me. It's easy to say afterwards but I thought there was a fair chance this might happen for the reasons you mentioned... although the extent to which we were defeated was a bit of a disappointment.


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and don't stop with bagging the crap out of the players - don't forget Denis and the MC are morons and have lost touch with the game as well :garthp:


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Fair enough EB. Supporters are supposed to suport and remain positive. Fair enough too that people shouldn't write off a season based on a single game or castrate players going through a bad trot.

Just as long as Pratt, Swan and Icke don't have this mentality - mediocrity should never be tolerated or backed and these guys shouldn't read flowery poems and get all tearey eyed about the blues of old. We may be getting like Richmond but it's not because our supporters are turning feral, it's because we've been a stinking heap for far too long and accepting it is more un-Carlton than anything else. No need for panic stations or drastic moves, but this loss follows a week of patting ourselves on the back so the whole club needs to take stock and get the train back on the tracks.


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I had a depressing thought last night, probably whilst watching Adelaide, that there is a very good chance we will not win a premiership in the next ten years. The odds are certainly stacked against us. And if I'm still here, as a 42 year old, reading the same crap as I am today, someone take me out the back and shoot me.


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Cazzesman wrote:

Look at it this way. Prior to 7.10pm last Saturday.

1. The boys were fit.
2. Most were playing solid (but patchy) football.
3. The game plan was working for the most part.
4. The Coaching staff had been going okay under pressure.

So what changed. The little bit between the ears had alot to do with it. The guys were flat. That was plain from the outset. On top of that the Cats were on fire.

Regards Cazzesman [/color]


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You forgot point 5. We have a captain who is a major liability.


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