If Fitzy was an observor what was he doing having any input into what happened???

Demetriou was just quoted he may have given advice...

Absolute disgrace!!!

* The board for having us compromised.
* Demetriou for lying.
* Fitzy for allowing this to happen.

Dont want to hear anymore about Browns 'strings'...

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So no more "Fitzy for President" then? Interesting that he seemed to have been involed in saving DP's skin..... this whole saga is just...

One thing about Fitzy.. he was meant to be a passive onlooker and he has steered the club to what the AFL want from it. (probably to do with Dogs involvement)...

And seeing he has seen close up how bad we are in the boardroom.. if he cared enough he would throw his hat into the ring and @#$%&! the AFL!!!

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I don't quite follow what the huge concern is with being led by the AFL for the time being if they want us to survive.

They supposedly already have damaging info on us, but they want to help us. If they do it their way and run us into the ground... guess what? They pump the money in to fix us again.

Meanwhile, questioning Fitzy's committment to the footy club is just strange. I'm sure he has things to say at board meetings, otherwise he'd be nothing more than a glorified stenographer.

So just to re-cap: the Carlton Football Club cannot somehow transcend the AFL, no footy club can at the moment. Fitzy is a Carlton man, you just have to sit with him at the footy to watch the fire in his eyes.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I feel so much better now...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

How did you feel when Fitzy exited the board last time he was a member of it?

He tried to fix this club before there were problems created.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

He was meant to have a passive role at the club wasnt he??? or so we were told.

We also know he didnt.

What he did was stop an injection of a million dollars into the club to alleviate the question of how to fix a problem that was oing to cost the club money..

Noit just that but by paying that mill... it also means the club doesnt have to come up with it... at a time that we have to pay 1.5 mill back to the AFL.

So they want us by the balls and Fitzy was part of it...

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Fitzroy believed thre AFL had their 'interests' at heart.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I don't trust the AFL as far as I could shoot them out of the eye of my dick.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Andrew Demetriou's in your dick...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

we're talking serious penis here

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Synners, the AFL has every club by the balls, they are the governing organisation.

You'd need a Kerry Packer-type (RIP) to come along and arrest the entire league with a huge cash injection and major sponsorship deals in order to change that principle.

Then you'd have that character holding you by the balls. Maybe they'd be a more receptive leader, but they'd still have total control.

Unless of course the AFL don't own the naming rights to the club...?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Jimmae we all understand that

but while we are weak we are vulnerable.

So at that point we do not put our trust in any AFL goodwill.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Ultimately Synners, are you looking for a franchise system, where you're working through the AFL, but at the end of the day someone else owns and runs the business?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

If you don't trust who's at the top of the AFL, then bandy up and encourage the club to push for change amongst the other clubs.

I don't like AD either.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

to do that we first need to be a club worth listening to - which is what we are talking about Jimmae.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Then that's the board, the coach should be seperated from all this. His role in controlling the club is merely imaginary beyond his work in the football department.

At the very least the board seem to have some sort of plan for the coach that is reasonable in my view, but they are demonstrating (swinging votes or not) that they are collectively inadequate for the overall task.

Talk about sticking it to the AFL is folly and - if successful - superficial in its impact AT BEST.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I heard that interview with Demetriou, he said that Fitzpatrick MAY HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR HIS THOUGHTS/ADVICE by our Board. No mention that he gave it.

Not saying he did or didn't, but there is enough misinformation flying around at the moment, we don't need any more.

And for what it's worth, I think the AFL want to see Carlton again, they realise that Carlton being weak as it is now is not good for footy.

It's easy to get caught up with the emotion of all this, as we all do at times on this site, but the only way to get anywhere constructively is to set emotion aside, look at the facts in the cold hard light of day, don't accept ideas or theories or conspiracies just because someone says they are true (or we want them to be true)...search out the facts... and get on and do what needs to be done.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Yes the problem with trusting the AFL though is that they will want Carlton to regrow in a way acceptable to them. I just cant throw away the idea that the Brown influence prompted something in this regard. Its petty but since when hasn't Demetriou been petty?

Aside from expecting us to fall in line with all their decisions (which should never happen), how could they affect our regrowth?

Retard it or cap it to an acceptable rate of growth/level of growth?

What you're talking about is controlling a market place. Surely there are avenues that can be taken to stop such a thing from happening.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.