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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:09 pm 
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Craig Bradley
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When Voss was re-committed to many of us speculated that it was a sign of the club stand up to self-entitled players. That the tail would no longer wag the dog.

The evidence of TDK, JSOS, and Curnow, plus the treatment of Guv and Hollands perhaps shows that we perhaps weren't far off the mark and that we are trying to instil discipline.

The way the younger players seem to have responded seems very encouraging.

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Could be a bit of a tactic with Elijah?

Look for a trade and we'll trade you if we get something good, if not let's revisit your situation in a few weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 2:29 pm 
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I actually think Charlie is more flakey than Harry.
Charlie has talent to burn and that gets him through most of the time.

Again, I’d prefer to keep them both. Bring in a better game plan which includes better delivery into the forward line and better craft amongst the forwards.

However, I’m ok with trading one of them to a club who will pay overs to fix the hole they perceive. I wouldn’t trade both of them.

I am nervous about the AFL bringing in a drafting rule next year which prevents us getting Walker.
Might need to get HOF’s dad involved…


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:01 pm 
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I am nervous about the AFL bringing in a drafting rule next year which prevents us getting Walker.
Might need to get HOF’s dad involved…

Agreed. We go straight to court.

They have only just made a change for this year. They haven't even seen how it works yet. It will be much harder to match bids on top players with the accumulation of points from lower picks. They should see how it works and then decide. If they want to make a change in the future make it five years out so that it doesn't affect anyone.

The thing is if it does happen then the northern states will stop their academies and that is where the AFL wants to grow the game. So fingers crossed it stays the same.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:20 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
When Voss was re-committed to many of us speculated that it was a sign of the club stand up to self-entitled players. That the tail would no longer wag the dog.

The evidence of TDK, JSOS, and Curnow, plus the treatment of Guv and Hollands perhaps shows that we perhaps weren't far off the mark and that we are trying to instil discipline.

The way the younger players seem to have responded seems very encouraging.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:21 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
Could be a bit of a tactic with Elijah?

Look for a trade and we'll trade you if we get something good, if not let's revisit your situation in a few weeks.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:39 pm 
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malbi wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
I am nervous about the AFL bringing in a drafting rule next year which prevents us getting Walker.
Might need to get HOF’s dad involved…

Agreed. We go straight to court.

They have only just made a change for this year. They haven't even seen how it works yet. It will be much harder to match bids on top players with the accumulation of points from lower picks. They should see how it works and then decide. If they want to make a change in the future make it five years out so that it doesn't affect anyone.

The thing is if it does happen then the northern states will stop their academies and that is where the AFL wants to grow the game. So fingers crossed it stays the same.

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You can have a draft, or you can have club-driven youth pathways. You can’t have both.

If they limit the payoff, clubs will limit the investment. No one is going to invest top end money on the 41st pick in the draft.

Jobs will go. Not just coaching jobs, but administrative jobs. The academies are the only cost-effective way to replenish the talent pool.

It’s a simple fix - with a national reserves competition for development squads aged 16-21yo (i.e. draft year, plus three years). Limit the number of full contracts in the squad & make it a semi-professional contract for the rest.

No priority access unless the player has racked up a certain number of games for the club in that league.

The age limit will force a turnover, otherwise mandate 5-6 get released into the open pool. Create a mid-season window for the 19-21 year olds to be drafted on to primary lists.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2025 6:58 pm 
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bender wrote:
as for curnow, this seems like his manager is being the leaker, but either way theres clearly some truth to the rumours, as there has been no deniability. so he can @#$%&! right off, i just hope he doesnt go to geelong or to gold coast


Why Gold Coast? They're so insignificant and inoffensive. They also have realistic trade targets compared to Sydney. What would people say to a Charlie-Ben King trade? Flanders seemingly out of favour, Walter an interesting project. Humphrey and Long are wonderful but no idea if realistic. Anderson and Rowell in the realm of fantasy. King is a free agent next year and is rumoured to want to come home. I just hope his height doesn't fool us into considering him a McKay replacement, he doesn't ruck and is vastly inferior at contested marking and general physical competitiveness. He's a more reliable goal kicker, though, and I think he and H could form an unstoppable duo.

Edit: auspicious timing with Effes dropping that rumour while I typed!


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