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 Post subject: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:35 pm 
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Owies and Carroll going nowhere.

Carroll is our only genuine on ball prospect developing under Walsh and Cerra and has shown some really good signs


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Can't see more than two of them going.

Which one of the contracted players will go?

Boyd will be upgraded & we’ll add both Camporeales in the draft. That’s three changes.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Bailey Humphrey how much?

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 Post subject: List Management 2024
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Crusader wrote:
dane wrote:
Can't see more than two of them going.

Which one of the contracted players will go?

Boyd will be upgraded & we’ll add both Camporeales in the draft. That’s three changes.


how many can we drop onto the rockie list? isn’t that what we did with Ed Curnow in his last year or two?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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diesel95 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
dane wrote:
Can't see more than two of them going.

Which one of the contracted players will go?

Boyd will be upgraded & we’ll add both Camporeales in the draft. That’s three changes.


how many can we drop onto the rockie list? isn’t that what we did with Ed Curnow in his last year or two?


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Assuming Akuei, Mirkov & S.Durdin all leave, as well as the upgrade for Boyd, next year’s list will be:

M.Carroll
Cincotta
Lord
O’Keeffe
Monahan
Duffy

There might be room for one more, but I’m not certain the Betts/Kennedy/Curnow move is still available to us.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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need to find 193cm quick defender and another saad type (no more small fwd talk)


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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exactly 193????

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 Post subject: List Management 2024
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192.5 - 193.4cm


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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jpulice1969 wrote:
need to find 193cm quick defender and another saad type (no more small fwd talk)


Saad El-Hawli from the Northern Bullants, VFL, is the one I wanted at the mid season draft because of his Saad like speed, and his skills.

Speed kills.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Heavs wrote:
Bailey Humphrey how much?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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do we get compo if we lose martin? if so, make the trade. we have zac, and martin cannot stay healthy.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:11 pm 
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do we get compo if we lose martin? if so, make the trade. we have zac, and martin cannot stay healthy.

He’s not a free agent.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:59 am 
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MORE YEARS FOR ROOKIES?

THE AFL is considering a change to the rules where players would be able to stay on rookie lists for up to five years.

Currently players can only spend three consecutive seasons on the rookie list before needing to be upgraded to the senior list or delisted.

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But as part of discussions with clubs, the League has had support for extending the limit to five years under certain parameters in a bid to allow clubs more time to develop key-position types and ruck talents as rookies.

Under a possible stipulation raised, rookies would be able to stay on the rookie list after their third year if they have not played a certain number of games at AFL level by then and again at the end of their fourth year.

The rule has had support from clubs as the AFL looks at different mechanisms as part of its wide-ranging competitive balance review. – Callum Twomey

No mention of it here, however, if the grapevine is on the money, the loophole that allows primary-listed players to be moved to the rookie list will be tightened up.

Whatever stipulation is placed on 4th & 5th year the extensions would, I think, serve as a catch all.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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jake_h03 wrote:
192.5 - 193.4cm


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I reckon that as the wing span is the ticket.

Arm length plus shoulder height is the measurement I want to know,

in addition to stationary and running jump height and weight of body.

BODY FAT ? That would tell us how much Russell could chisel them down to.

Weight is important. Bloody woke AFL

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Crusader wrote:
Marchbank
Cuningham
Martin
J.Carroll
Owies

Barring any surprises, three of these guys won’t be with us next year.

There’s an obvious three… it’ll put a dint in the culture, but at the end of the day, “the best ability is availability”.

We’ll start next season with at least 10 players on zero games - 11 if you include Binns.


Owies is interesting. He's a consistent performer but he hasn't been signed, yet. Could we be interested in Ainsworth after missing out on Haywood. Restricted free agent. Plays up the ground more than Owies but similar score involvements. Offers a bit more speed around the ball. It will be interesting to see what coin Owies is after. He's a perfect SOS target. Played YJFL with his boys, lured him home from basketball. If he'd been on GWS' list he'd be a near certainty. :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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To summarise the posts that got lost…

Including Duffy & the two Camporeales, we have 48 players.

10* players don’t have contracts. Five on the Primary List. Five* on the rookie list.

Boyd will move to the Primary List. If there are new rules permitting a 4th or 5th year on the rookie list, expect 32 games in four and a half years to be outside those parameters.

Those same parameters will almost certainly shut the door on Cunningham or Marchbank moving to the rookie list.

Primary: 39 players (36 +3)
Cat A: 6 (7 -1)
Cat B (NGA): 1
Cat B (Int): 2 (1 +1)

Rookie List commitments:
Cat A: Cincotta, O’Keeffe, Lord*, M.Carroll*
Cat B (Int): Monahan, Duffy

* No official word on Lord & M.Carroll, but they should have offers. Lord a certainty with standard MSD deals, though M.Carroll might be let go if he needs excess time to get his groins fixed.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Crusader wrote:
To summarise the posts that got lost…

Including Duffy & the two Camporeales, we have 48 players.

10* players don’t have contracts. Five on the Primary List. Five* on the rookie list.

Boyd will move to the Primary List. If there are new rules permitting a 4th or 5th year on the rookie list, expect 32 games in four and a half years to be outside those parameters.

Those same parameters will almost certainly shut the door on Cunningham or Marchbank moving to the rookie list.

Primary: 39 players (36 +3)
Cat A: 6 (7 -1)
Cat B (NGA): 1
Cat B (Int): 2 (1 +1)

Rookie List commitments:
Cat A: Cincotta, O’Keeffe, Lord*, M.Carroll*
Cat B (Int): Monahan, Duffy

* No official word on Lord & M.Carroll, but they should have offers. Lord a certainty with standard MSD deals, though M.Carroll might be let go if he needs excess time to get his groins fixed.


who is duffy, crus?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Blue Vain wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Marchbank
Cuningham
Martin
J.Carroll
Owies

Barring any surprises, three of these guys won’t be with us next year.

There’s an obvious three… it’ll put a dint in the culture, but at the end of the day, “the best ability is availability”.

We’ll start next season with at least 10 players on zero games - 11 if you include Binns.


Owies is interesting. He's a consistent performer but he hasn't been signed, yet. Could we be interested in Ainsworth after missing out on Haywood. Restricted free agent. Plays up the ground more than Owies but similar score involvements. Offers a bit more speed around the ball. It will be interesting to see what coin Owies is after. He's a perfect SOS target. Played YJFL with his boys, lured him home from basketball. If he'd been on GWS' list he'd be a near certainty. :lol:
Time will tell.


i'd rather lose cunningham and martin than owies, simply for durability

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