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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:02 pm 
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Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:48 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available


We don't know where Kennedy's health is at.

No recent news given on injury report

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:00 pm 
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Surely we go in with both Owies and Motlop. Love the energy they both bring as well as them both hitting the scoreboard and defensive pressure. Motlop still working on the defensive side but has improved a lot in that area.


Motlop has the most tackles inside 50 at Carlton with 28. Next best is 18.


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That's a huge difference. But only 1 and a bit per game.

Just checked footywire and he's applied 46 tackles or 2.6 a game.
If that is correct, they are huge numbers, as opposed to just over 1 per game, which, if that's his primary role, to apply pressure, I would want to see improvement TBH.


I was listing tackles inside forward 50 only. He's in the top 15-20 in the league for this

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:04 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available


We don't know where Kennedy's health is at.

No recent news given on injury report


He's listed as a test in todays injury update and mentions he's every chance to be right to go in a fortnight. So he obviously wasn't quite ready last week

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:06 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available


Absolutely agree. Jack in for Fogarty would give us the ruck chop out while still maintaining the run and pressure. Pitto in for Fogarty starts to look top heavy again.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available


We don't know where Kennedy's health is at.

No recent news given on injury report


Trained fully last week. he's fine


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:08 pm 
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For me it's this team:

Newman Weitering Kemp
Cincotta McGovern Saad
Acres Cripps Docherty
Owies McKay Cuningham
TdK Curnow Martin
Pittonet Cerra Walsh
Hewett Motlop Dow Fisher
Kennedy

Emerg/Depth: Marchbank, Hollands, Cottrell, Fogarty, Boyd, ECurnow, CDurdin

Really want to include Marchbank but feel against Swans we might be too tall. Would have March instead of Cincotta.
Some really unlucky players missing out, but we need Kennedy to get a run as a sub. Hollands very unlucky.
Next in JSoS.

Can't wait for Friday week. Go baggers - it's time.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:13 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available


We don't know where Kennedy's health is at.

No recent news given on injury report


Trained fully last week. he's fine



Kennedy usually needs a couple of games before he works his way into form - I think he’s only a “break glass” option for the final’s campaign.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:14 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Absolutely agree. Jack in for Fogarty would give us the ruck chop out while still maintaining the run and pressure.



Don't mind it but I'm a big Fogarty fan.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:17 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Absolutely agree. Jack in for Fogarty would give us the ruck chop out while still maintaining the run and pressure.



Don't mind it but I'm a big Fogarty fan.


Fogarty has been good and helps in the middle. He's in my side


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:32 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
For me it's this team:

Newman Weitering Kemp
Cincotta McGovern Saad
Acres Cripps Docherty
Owies McKay Cuningham
TdK Curnow Martin
Pittonet Cerra Walsh
Hewett Motlop Dow Fisher
Kennedy

Emerg/Depth: Marchbank, Hollands, Cottrell, Fogarty, Boyd, ECurnow, CDurdin

Really want to include Marchbank but feel against Swans we might be too tall. Would have March instead of Cincotta.
Some really unlucky players missing out, but we need Kennedy to get a run as a sub. Hollands very unlucky.
Next in JSoS.

Can't wait for Friday week. Go baggers - it's time.


I’d swap Dow and Fisher for Cottrel and Boyd. I’d also like to fit Fogarty in but can’t find the room.
Ideally Dow would be sub but Kennedy needs some game time.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:57 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
For me it's this team:

Newman Weitering Kemp
Cincotta McGovern Saad
Acres Cripps Docherty
Owies McKay Cuningham
TdK Curnow Martin
Pittonet Cerra Walsh
Hewett Motlop Dow Fisher
Kennedy

Emerg/Depth: Marchbank, Hollands, Cottrell, Fogarty, Boyd, ECurnow, CDurdin

Really want to include Marchbank but feel against Swans we might be too tall. Would have March instead of Cincotta.
Some really unlucky players missing out, but we need Kennedy to get a run as a sub. Hollands very unlucky.
Next in JSoS.

Can't wait for Friday week. Go baggers - it's time.


I’d swap Dow and Fisher for Cottrel and Boyd. I’d also like to fit Fogarty in but can’t find the room.
Ideally Dow would be sub but Kennedy needs some game time.


After going through everything and reading stats, I would go with

B: Docherty Weitering Kemp
HB: Newman McGovern Saad
C: Acres Cripps Walsh
HF: Cottrell McKay Owies
F: Martin Motlop Motlop
Foll: TDK Hewett Cerra
Int: Dow Fogarty Boyd Hollands (Cuningham/Kennedy)

Docherty back to defence as we have midfield depth. Boyd in to shutdown Papley
The run of Walsh Hollands Acres is vital. They cover so much ground. Walsh on a wing to just run. Let Cripps Hewett Cerra Dow Fogarty do the hard inside stuff
Cottrell to lockdown on Campbell
Fogarty is a tough defensive forward but also a good clearance midfielder
Either Cuningham or Kennedy as sub. Cuningham could really break the game open with his pace and run later in game

Looked at the 2 rucks. Not easy. When I do we seem to be top heavy. However, at the MCG might be an advantage? To add Pittonet, Dow or Hollands goes out.
A longshot may be to play Young or Durdin who have both played fwd/ruck in their careers. Although unlikely

Silvagni being fit would be a massive advantage

Most sides are similar to mine. It's about balance and playing to our strengths. Contested ball needs numbers, especially in a final


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:01 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available

Saw JSOS sitting with his parents and maybe his nonna at the GWS match. All smiles and no limp.

I have no idea how he is actually progressing.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:16 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
CK95 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Losing Jack has really hurt us



Sure has. He was sensational against Port & WCE.

He was out of form in the losing run but we've looked like we've missed him the last few weeks. Just our rotten luck he's the last of the returning players to be available

Saw JSOS sitting with his parents and maybe his nonna at the GWS match. All smiles and no limp.

I have no idea how he is actually progressing.


Strong rumor is it's bone bruising. Could be a week, could be three


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:05 pm 
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Guys like him & Kennedy would be a bit too far behind the 8 ball now to make it into the team wouldn't they, even if recovered?

This is where it'd be nice to have the VFL side still playing.

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Guys like him & Kennedy would be a bit too far behind the 8 ball now to make it into the team wouldn't they, even if recovered?

This is where it'd be nice to have the VFL side still playing.


Nah, if Voss thinks they're in our best team they'll make their way in. There will be some practice matches going on for the guys who aren't playing week one. I know it's not the same as the real thing but players come back from injury to play in finals all the time. As long as they're 100% fit and the injury isn't lingering I wouldn't hold them out

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jake_h03 wrote:
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Guys like him & Kennedy would be a bit too far behind the 8 ball now to make it into the team wouldn't they, even if recovered?

This is where it'd be nice to have the VFL side still playing.


Nah, if Voss thinks they're in our best team they'll make their way in. There will be some practice matches going on for the guys who aren't playing week one. I know it's not the same as the real thing but players come back from injury to play in finals all the time. As long as they're 100% fit and the injury isn't lingering I wouldn't hold them out


There is a few match sims set for the next week. can't beat games but players like Kennedy will be ready


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FarmerBlue wrote:
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Guys like him & Kennedy would be a bit too far behind the 8 ball now to make it into the team wouldn't they, even if recovered?

This is where it'd be nice to have the VFL side still playing.


Nah, if Voss thinks they're in our best team they'll make their way in. There will be some practice matches going on for the guys who aren't playing week one. I know it's not the same as the real thing but players come back from injury to play in finals all the time. As long as they're 100% fit and the injury isn't lingering I wouldn't hold them out


There is a few match sims set for the next week. can't beat games but players like Kennedy will be ready


Exactly. It’s no different to playing round 1. Other side of the argument is they’ll be fresh after a decent break


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:36 pm 
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Are they intra club match sims or have we paired up with another club

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