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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:06 pm 
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Meh!! By the time finals are finished Dew wil have had nearly 4 months to put the best PowerPoint preso together EVER!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:46 pm 
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I think the idea would be that he'd know his fate before September, but his contact with the club would be limited until mid-to-late September.

At that point in the season it's all on SOS, the recruitment team and some limited fitness work for those that need to maintain their rehabilitation work over the off-season, so it's really no sweat off our backs given he can't exactly draw up a full-blown game plan before running the rule through the list. He can't do that until after the finals anyway, beyond video analysis at least.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:18 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
There are precedents for assistant coaches walking during finals campaigns. Neeld is one that comes to mind, but I was kinda hoping I could remember a more successful example. :lol:


Brenton Sanderson left Geelong when he got the Adelaide gig. In a premiership year at that

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:27 pm 
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I think Neeld and Sanderson leaving during finals were the reasons for the introduction of the new rules which stop us from announcing the new coach.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:46 pm 
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I would have preferred a more elder statesman as the ex football coach on the panel.

Someone like a Leigh Matthews who has played and coached some of the best teams in the history of football. I'm not sure if he has an involvement with Brisbane and that may be one reason why someone with his credentials is not part of the panel.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:49 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
I would have preferred a more elder statesman as the ex football coach on the panel.

Someone like a Leigh Matthews who has played and coached some of the best teams in the history of football. I'm not sure if he has an involvement with Brisbane and that may be one reason why someone with his credentials is not part of the panel.


Lethal said on the weekend he didn't agree with clubs farming out the responsibility of hiring new coaches to independent panels.

Reckons that's why you have administrators and board members, to make tough calls. Leaving it to people outside the club means they don't have to wear the consequences.

I can see his point.

In Carlton's case though, I don't see any reason to think this board could pick it's own nose so it makes sense to get other opinions.

I'm glad Trigg has the stones to sit on the panel, at least he's tying himself to the success or otherwise of the decision.

Less enthusiastic about Judds appointment. Looks like a bit of a "spread the blame" if it goes wrong appointment.

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Rexy wrote:
Not sure Juddy should be involved given his preoccupation with the knee.

Ange is a great get.

Kenny Sheldon...? Has he had any recent involvement in AFL ?


Is this good enough for you Rexy :grin:
http://youtu.be/mZQDQhtEfYM


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:40 pm 
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Very good panel. Glad to see others are behind it too.
Not convinced of anything yet but it may seem our club is slowly moving into the 21st century


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:43 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
I think Neeld and Sanderson leaving during finals were the reasons for the introduction of the new rules which stop us from announcing the new coach.


Just need some "book tour" rules and we'll be right.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:44 pm 
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I might have my years mixed up, but I think Sheldon was on the panel that chose Lyon for stk


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:46 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
dadadadada wrote:
I would have preferred a more elder statesman as the ex football coach on the panel.

Someone like a Leigh Matthews who has played and coached some of the best teams in the history of football. I'm not sure if he has an involvement with Brisbane and that may be one reason why someone with his credentials is not part of the panel.


Lethal said on the weekend he didn't agree with clubs farming out the responsibility of hiring new coaches to independent panels.

Reckons that's why you have administrators and board members, to make tough calls. Leaving it to people outside the club means they don't have to wear the consequences.

I can see his point.

In Carlton's case though, I don't see any reason to think this board could pick it's own nose so it makes sense to get other opinions.

I'm glad Trigg has the stones to sit on the panel, at least he's tying himself to the success or otherwise of the decision.

Less enthusiastic about Judds appointment. Looks like a bit of a "spread the blame" if it goes wrong appointment.

At the end of the day, the board make the appointment. This panel provides insight and a recommendation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:40 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
I might have my years mixed up, but I think Sheldon was on the panel that chose Lyon for stk


http://mobile.news.com.au/national/nine-wins-just-one-ross/story-e6frfkp9-1225718309048

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It is considered football gospel that Walls, a long-time supporter of Lyon, pulled his name out of the draw late.

But, in fact, it was newly appointed football manager Ken Sheldon who first thrust Lyon's name forward - at least a fortnight into the "process''.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:03 pm 
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David Parkin?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:29 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
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Less enthusiastic about Judds appointment. Looks like a bit of a "spread the blame" if it goes wrong appointment.


One of the more ridiculous things I've read on TC.

I don't really have an opinion on whether it is good or not not, having Judd on the selection panel. But do you seriously think that is the reason they've chosen for Judd to be involved?

OMFG !!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:40 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
At the end of the day, the board make the appointment. This panel provides insight and a recommendation.


Which begs the question why Trigg is on the panel. Shouldn't the recommendations be made to the CEO and Board? As soon as he opens his mouth, Trigg will have too much influence.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:45 pm 
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Princes Park Whistler wrote:
jimmae wrote:
At the end of the day, the board make the appointment. This panel provides insight and a recommendation.


Which begs the question why Trigg is on the panel. Shouldn't the recommendations be made to the CEO and Board? As soon as he opens his mouth, Trigg will have too much influence.


Maybe but this way he'll also be responsible for the consequences.

If the appointment fails it'd be too easy to say "we followed due process so it's not my fault" if he wasn't involved.

I'm happy for him to be there and if it were me in that position I'd want to be there too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:45 pm 
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http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ang ... hpb6t.html

Seems they wanted Judd on the panel even if he hadn't of retired


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:54 pm 
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GWS wrote:
Princes Park Whistler wrote:
jimmae wrote:
At the end of the day, the board make the appointment. This panel provides insight and a recommendation.


Which begs the question why Trigg is on the panel. Shouldn't the recommendations be made to the CEO and Board? As soon as he opens his mouth, Trigg will have too much influence.


Maybe but this way he'll also be responsible for the consequences.

If the appointment fails it'd be too easy to say "we followed due process so it's not my fault" if he wasn't involved.

I'm happy for him to be there and if it were me in that position I'd want to be there too.

I can't help feeling that with him on the panel it is not independent.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:56 pm 
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There seems to be a good mix of talent, and experience on the panel, I like Postecoglou and Sheldon, however I would have liked a non-Carlton Football person on it.

Lets hope we attract a good pool of applicants.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:18 am 
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I like the selection committee. They don't have to be a fully independent panel. They just need to have the breadth and depth of experience to find the best person to coach the club after considering a wide selection of applicants.

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