Same with the kickouts...players jogging and not sprinting to get free. Occasionally Curnow will put in a massive sprint to get free...other than that not much. Bomb to Wood. Bomb to Rowe.

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

He's an absolute class act who shows a bit of flowering leadership out there. He came good late last year after an interrupted pre season.

He's a gun who's at least kicked more than 5 goals in a game of AFL footy. Put Cas back in the fwd line plus a third tall like Walker/Everitt and the dynamics of that fwd line will change significantly for the better. Bucks for the crumbing too, just amazed he's out of favour at the minute. The lad can play and he plays with a bit of bottle too, get him back!!

..disagree, I think our defensive running is poor.. ..offensive running needs work too, hence me saying not enough two way running.. ..not enough running full stop.. ....how many times did an onballer or hf run back hard enough to put their body on the line by filling the hole in opposition f50..?.. ..when we tried to switchlay, where were the loose players..?.. ..this is work rate.. ..its not about game plan, it's about work rate.. ..every game plan will call for players to run into open space..

..we lose possession because selfish players call for the ball instead of blocking and shepherding.. (Murphy must spend half the match waving his hands for the cheapy)

..up and under kicks, slow loopy handballs, passing to a player under pressure/outnumbered..

....these mistakes have been happening for a decade..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Numpties see him drop one mark and miss one goal in the second half and think that's all there is to the game.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

IMHO not much has changed from last season and the season before. Game starts ok, we win the ball from the middle, there appears to be a system in place and we deliver into the forward fifty. Forwards take marks and miss really easy goals from set shots. All the hard work is wasted. If the 3 goal 7 was 7 goals 3 at quarter time, the scoreboard pressure on the Tigers would have been telling. This scenario has played out a lot in our losses over the past few years.

Then, our opposition begins to apply the teensiest, tinyest amount of pressure and the system breaks down. Players become rushed, disposal efficiency drops and so does confidence. The opposition seize the opportunity, their confidence rises and away they go. Plan A is failing but no changes are made, no player puts their hand up to take the game on and inspire their team mates and so it goes until the final siren and I'm sitting next to the Richmond cheer squad belting out "Yellow and Black"!

Lots of criticism of individual players on this thread, but this pattern occurs time and again season after season. It's a cultural deficiency... Might require a generational change unfortunately.

Good news is that I can book my September holidays without any regret.

TwinOne

yes. I appreciate the effort.
particularly liked the picket fence.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

We won clearances but where did we go with the break advantage?

Rarely did we go past HFF let alone where Hendo and Jones and at times Everitt Jaksche Roew and Wood were camped.

Clearances were good but after that part of the ball movement procession it was fools gold...no outside run.....other than from the HB...Imo.

I don't think people saw on a TV that the ball hardly went near our forward line, and when it did it just went over the 50m arc and they just took it and set up the rebound where our guys couldn't keep up...then they pressed us (against the ropes) in their cowardliness and pummelled us.

We definitely needed an in form Buckley taking on the press in the back half...you're dead right we lacked zip

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Menzel put in a couple of soft efforts last night .... very unlike him.

Fair enough BKB.

I guess he will come on when Judd Simpson Carrazzo Curnow have gone, Murphy in his twig height with a lost yard and he is leading our 20 you....the cycle of life and death?

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Senior players getting old.
Mid level players not good enough.
Playing a bunch of young kids/first years.

This is the formula for being a wooden spoon contender.

No mate he's just at the other end of the ego/heart spectrum all our players seem to be on: he's all heart, no ego.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Explain this.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I can't remember the last time he won a game for us up forward by doing anything other than meat and potatoes lead up work. Doesn't have true attacking instincts to snag a goal.

You don't want show ponies, but you don't want blokes who fail to abandon team instruction when a better marking or goal opportunity presents itself. Teams that look tactically stale are often harbouring too many blokes who can't think outside the box and provide a new option for the coach.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

So your criticism is he's a hard working, quality KPP who follows the game plan to the letter but struggles to win games off his own boot by defying the coach?

Fev was in the crowd, how did he work out?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

It seems that there is a palpable sense of great disappointment across the thread. The posts from observers that I value have certainly shown that. Have yet to watch the game. It appears not much has changed. I thought MM's statements after the game were very poor. After a full pre-season and to put up a performance like that was sad. Our club is like the British Empire - once great but now irrelevant in the big picture.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

..in my view I partly agree with the end result of what jimmae is saying but for different reasons.. ..in my opinion he is an old fashioned chf that will create that will create for the finisher, but not the finisher himself.. ..he will still kick goals, but he will be the prime avenue into the f50 if we play him as such.. ..he will cover the miles, runs the patterns.. ..i'd like to run watto with him in a similar manner, and be kicking into faster more mobile leading targets inside fifty that can also apply defensive pressure and crumb goals off each other..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Our defensive running was very poor after qtr time, as I lost count of the running bounces they had from the backline without being pressured.

As was our offensive running when the tigers adjusted their zoning and we were static for large parts, forcing a long kick to a contest.

For me nothing has changed in regards to the attitude of our mids, even after two coaches... look like superstars when things are going well, lazy ball watchers when under pressure.

Our forward structure had issues but where was the help from the mids? 3 goals... two of them in the last when the game was done.

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The score board flashed up with 27 running bounces to Richmond early in the second half. Ridiculous statistic.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

The instruction is to provide reliability, to seek out the obvious and high-percentage opportunities within the system. Being able to step outside that when the opposition inevitably pressure the regular avenues is what separates the the top tiers of players from the rest.

You largely want players who play by the rules, but know when to break the rules. Otherwise you've got 21 robots with imperfect skills, which entirely defeats the point of having robots in the first place.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

You need the spread both ways.. But that means you need runners..
You're not going to move the ball through a well organized , structured, defensive set up by foot with no movements

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