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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:44 pm 
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I thought Wood gave us something around the ground. He took as many contested marks in one game as Warnock has all year


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:14 pm 
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Waited until round 18 to give us a 4 quarter effort
Good win and best for the season but not sure what it really shows us
Are we an underperforming side who should be higher up the ladder or a bottom side who takes a big scalp when the better team is overconfident and doesn't bring it's A game

Still obviously need a good draft / trade period to get more talent into the group

Waite is emblematic of the team can be a world beater on occasions can play a few stinkers and when he plays the stinkers he doesn't even do the hard things well and the gap between best and worst is huge and has brain fades even during the good games

Positives
Another game into graham bell Menzel
Functioning forward line helps -miss Jeffys pace but not lack of intensity
Rowe -I was so wrong about this guy it was criminal
Hendo yarran Mitch all played well for 100 game milestone
Beat a top 8 side
Menzel not doing ACL
Woods around the ground game
Negatives
Why has it taken 18 rounds to produce this footy
Injury to Everitt
Murdered in centre bounce
Footy public have no idea how good Gibbs is


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:07 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
MPH78 wrote:
Been a hugely disappointing season. No getting around that fact. There has been some positives though and I'm the first to admit that I need to recognise those more.

I know where we are at but winning feels good. Had much more energy on the morning run today :lol:


Not sure what next year holds, but I reasonably confident our future looks better than Norf, tiges, Bombers.


Unless we have another injury crisis, I can't see how we could be worse than we are now next year. The only player who has had a marginal impact on this season we might lose is Judd. Not saying we'll jump up the ladder, I just can't see us going backwards. Despite Monga telling MLG last night on 3AW we'll finish 17th next year.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:24 pm 
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I'd say that was what they were booing. People dont like rapists and at the footy dont like the opposition so an end result is people booing a bloke up on rape charges playing for the opposition. Id wait to see if he was found guilty myself although i did use to boo Milne when i wore a younger man's shoes.



From where I was sitting the booing only started after he collided with Hendo

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:24 am 
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Warnock consistently wins the tap outs, then does sweet FA. he is a virtual statue after that. if anyone thinks that's the roll of a modern day ruckman, they've got rocks in their head. Give me a competitive, physical and mobile option every time.

The problem with Warnock's game is that he wins tap outs, but they nearly always go to the opposition. They then get a clearance and we are playing catch up all game.

On Friday night we won the all important centre clearances. Wood may not have got the most tap outs, but at least the ones that he got were to our players. Then on top of that there is there were the big 7 marks and 3 tackles that Warnock will never do.

Wood for the rest of the season should play in the firsts. At the end of the season trade Warnock to Collingwood for their first rounder.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:31 am 
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But i don't quite see how we can play Hendo / Waite and Levi in the same team?

Hendo is a tough one. Brilliant up forward but so important down back. Why can't he be a twin?


Ryan, I couldn't see a problem last night all 3 took their turn at being the hit up player up the ground and it appeared to me that Levi's job last night was to be a bit of a decoy up forward and back wood up in the ruck, we were able to split the North defence and give one on one opportunities to our forwards because the defenders had to be real careful about dropping off their man as all three are good strong marks, I thought it worked well and Levi's stats don't reflect the job that Mick asked him to do last night.

Great post that.
There is more to footy than pure stats.
Bell, Curnow don't get a lot of stats but they make a lot of room for others or stop their man getting possessions.
People say Bruce Doull is in the top few players in the club't history and that is true. Doull never was big on stats but he was never beaten (apart from one State of Origen on Kernahan). I used to say if he wrote a book, it should have been called, "Punched away" by Bruce Doull.
I am not suggesting either or any of them is as good as Doull but want to highlight the difference between stats-based assessment and role achievement.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:39 am 
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Headplant wrote:
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great to see a ruckman in a Carlton jumper make a significant contribution to the team effort.


Really?

You have very low expectations.

Wood failed as a ruckman and also as an option around the ground in the packs and outside.



Bullshit

I think you meant flower bullshit.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:10 am 
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CK95 wrote:
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I'd say that was what they were booing. People dont like rapists and at the footy dont like the opposition so an end result is people booing a bloke up on rape charges playing for the opposition. Id wait to see if he was found guilty myself although i did use to boo Milne when i wore a younger man's shoes.



From where I was sitting the booing only started after he collided with Hendo

Agreed (no seriously).

I felt that North supporters forgot to boo Judd for a while, and then the Henderson non-event occurred. Suddenly WE had someone to boo, which drew Judd boos again! Funny old footy.

Jeez I had a blast bagging Harvey all night. So hatable.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:13 am 
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emtwenty wrote:
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Gibbs and Waite ... brilliant. Waite should never have been dropped.



Oh yes he should have.

:wink:


Exactly. MM has been hard with Waite and told him a few truths and he has had to earn his way back. That's a positive and what he needed. The key now is for him to do it consistently.

He did it with Yarran. Now with Waite. Next Jeffy (I still have faith). Laidler just didn't want to buy in.


Perhaps Strangelove really does have a cunning plan. He is gradually getting the team in a good position to move forward in the next few years, which of course will require good drafting and the odd canny recruit or two.

Hopefully he can get Jeffy back and firing before season's end too. Sugar maybe beyond saving though.

Great to see Rowe's development this year. Thought he was good mature age recruit going on his SANFL highlights, but he looked on very shaky ground not too long ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:20 am 
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Lindsay Thomas is a flog.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:23 am 
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years ago under denis...we had the chance to bring in boomer
it was going to be either him or nick stevens.. and boomer was stickier .. he actually wanted to stay at north but was interested... the money could have swayed him...

we chose nick because he was younger....

things could have been different

for the record in my opinion its good he stayed.. not cos i dont want him.. hes a ripper player and has been
but because im a romantic .. and i like he is a one club player for 20 years...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:24 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
MPH78 wrote:
Been a hugely disappointing season. No getting around that fact. There has been some positives though and I'm the first to admit that I need to recognise those more.

I know where we are at but winning feels good. Had much more energy on the morning run today :lol:


Not sure what next year holds, but I reasonably confident our future looks better than Norf, tiges, Bombers.


Hmmmm....big call re Bummers. Unless ASADA tear them a new one, they are flag contenders for next 4 years. I hope that they are silly enough to let Sir James return next year, as senior coach. Like Buckley, and Voss, great former player but coaching record not so flash :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:25 am 
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would love to see jeffy back and firing....
but the club will need some currency to go shopping end of year
you cant improve with the same old recipe and formula.

some will have to make way

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:49 am 
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CK95 wrote:
club29 wrote:
I'd say that was what they were booing. People dont like rapists and at the footy dont like the opposition so an end result is people booing a bloke up on rape charges playing for the opposition. Id wait to see if he was found guilty myself although i did use to boo Milne when i wore a younger man's shoes.



From where I was sitting the booing only started after he collided with Hendo

Agree. Was only booed towards the end because of Hendo.

Boomer was booed all night. And rightfully. Never really how much of a cheat he really is. He needs to be cited for putting Ed down behind play. Nearly cost us a goal.

And hopefully whoever put White down. Think it was 'my shoulder still hurts' Adams. Probably insufficient force, but needs to be highlighted. It nearly cost us a goal.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:28 pm 
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Great win
Graham shows something
Bell will be a godd on baller
Rowe has improved heaps and Jammo is better for it
Gibbs will win the b and f has improved this year
Not having Carrazzo and McLean helps up in defensive pressure in the open space
Wood is a better alternative to Warnock my bet is they will both play against Freo
Still need another ruck on the list


North are the hardest team to figure out they were shit tonight
They lack a star Harvey is their best player

Waite is the Noth Melbourne of Carlton in a singular sense


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:04 pm 
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.... Waite is the Noth Melbourne of Carlton in a singular sense


Do you mean the micro and the macro?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:25 pm 
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So.........

from the media reports........GREAT win by St Kilda
over Freo....BAD loss by North against the Blues........!

some real hate out there.......!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:47 pm 
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Harvey`s goal just before 1/2 time siren did my head in. How many times can this happen. It must be some sort of record.
Anyway, good win but probably typical of us and them.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:05 pm 
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tommi wrote:
So.........

from the media reports........GREAT win by St Kilda
over Freo....BAD loss by North against the Blues........!

some real hate out there.......!


kindest regards tommi





So true Tommy!

I admit that living in the UK, it's hard to keep up with the general 'feel' of footy back home but just from the media reports it seems like North Lost the game rather than us winning it!

Pisses me off!

The media are quick to comment on our losses but when we win it's too painful for them to give us any credit!

Robbo's the best at it. As is that prick Rohan Connoly.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:28 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Footy public have no idea how good Gibbs is


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Frank perhaps we can revisit the Gibbs thread and pull out a few pearls of wisdom from some of the Footy Public that visit here from time to time.

The sound of eggs being scraped from faces would be huge. :wink:


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