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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:15 am 
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I wonder how today's play on percentage compared to the rest of the season


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Get a life Effes



Yeah Effes, get a life. :lol:
No one wants to hear your logic or facts. Its easier to moronically call the players softcocks and weak with nothing to back it up whatsoever. :donk:

FWIW, I was rapt to see the boys have a win and obviously enjoying their footy.

Players playing with freedom. Plenty of run and receive. Maintaining possession and puttiing the ball into the hands of the quality ball users.
How often did we bring the ball into the corridor with a 45 degree chip kick to put someone in space? Scotland alone did it 2 or 3 times. It allowed us to attack the forward 50 through the corridor which resulted in more shots from in front. It also made us harder to play against. A zone is far more effective when you can condense it into one area of the ground. Yesterday we used the total width of the ground to transition the ball, and with speed. The fast ball movement didnt allow the opposition to flood back which resulted in more one on ones for our forwards. More one on one contests resulted in more space in the corridor to lead to.
Great to see Gibbs getting plenty of handball receives and using the ball with purpose.
Credit to Malthouse. His ego may not allow him to admit it but the boys played a more attacking game style which is far more suitable to our personnel.
And credit to the players. after all the shit they've copped, there werent too many passengers out there yesterday. Its like the Saints on Saturday. If you give the players a game style they believe in, effort can overcome deficiencies. The win was nice but I was more pleased to see the way we played the game.
Well done to Malthouse and the football department. Lets hope they can keep progressing from here.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:16 am 
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Bells last quarter was very good but the reason he gets dropped is his lack of finesse.

A lot of the time he barges when he should dish off, doesn't always pick the right option. And is a bit slow in decision making.

So much of the game now is what you can achieve under pressure, quick hands etc.
But he was very good in the last quarter.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:17 am 
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Black armbands on a couple of players. Only few though.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:18 am 
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If we had not dropped Waite & Garlett we would have beaten Melbourne last week


Yeah and possibly would have lost today as a result. We needed to make a stand buy dropping senior players that weren't prepared to put in 100%.


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thing I liked about the last qtr, the only bit that I saw, at the end of the game, there were no bullshit celebrations. it was as if they had just done what was expected, not won the gf like they once would have celebrated, or how Melbourne celebrated.

it really looked by their body language that they had more to do to earn back some respect, and this win was hard fought, deserved, now lets move on to the next challenge

nice work boys

Similarly, I thought the goal celebrations were heartfelt. Lots of hugs and genuine emotion instead of tippy tappy fist bumps.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:21 am 
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Kudos to Malthouse for changing the game plan and playing three key talls up forward

We are at our best when we play "fast" footy


he said in his presser that he didn't change it one inch....

only watched a bit of the last qtr, so don't know, but malthouse and truth to the media do not always go hand in hand. he is not the sort of bloke to admit he was wrong, so changing the game plan, even for a win, would be hard to admit

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:26 am 
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88 tackles today against the doggies...

From memory the Blues have only laid more tackles in a game on 2 occasions, both of which slightly higher at 90 tackles. (2011?)

The tackling count is a good indicator of player intensity, team pressure and concentration, workrate etc.

Especially in a game where the possession tally is about even for each team.

Won the contested ball today as well (with about 150 contested ball wins)

If you look at the previous 4 weeks, we have been very poor in these basic areas - with the exception of perhaps 2 quarters against the Port Power in the opening round and a quarter against the tigers.

Even if the blues had lost today, they would have at least been able to tick the workrate, 1%ers and contested ball boxes....no excuse for not being able to get the basics right in a football match. I think this is the main reason members have been angry at the team/club/coach etc in the opening month of football - and rightly so.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:30 am 
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actually we won well.!!. we played a helter skelter style of game.. and then in the end were brave.. but what we played wouldnt cut it against the good sides.
The Dogs are on the verge of that good side status but not there.
Warnock set up the game.. BOG for mine...
Rushing Judd back was silly.
Curnow will be a loss.
The mids stood up
Waite offfered us something.
Hendo is a gun
Daisy and Everitt were very good.. Docherty will add to that.
BUT ... weve been up this road before.

ill be happy when we win a few in a row...

Were miles of the pace... we just elevated ourselves to mid table profile and a chance of being one of the teams to fight out to make the also rans in the finals.
Still much better than how we have been tracking.
As Cretylus said .. look no further than the tackle count as an indicator.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:32 am 
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Masterstroke from Mick today. Playing an undercooked Judd in order to ensure we got a brave win was awesome. He really had the boys united today.


Judd was influential in what way?


He was the reason we won, of course. What Heavs said.


IDIOT


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Agree about Warnock. And he's probably been our best player in many of our significant wins over the past few years, including Round 23 against Port last year.

It is critical that we teach Kreuzer how to play forward.

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Agree about Warnock. And he's probably been our best player in many of our significant wins over the past few years, including Round 23 against Port last year.

It is critical that we teach Kreuzer how to play forward.


It's critical we teach Kreuzer how to stay on the park.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:42 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
I attended, we win. Pretty simple :-)

Problem now is when can I attend again?

That was a great 'effort' by the 'team'.



Solved!

All we need to do is fund King Kenny by way of a personal assistant, a housemaid and a chauffeur and we will win every game.

Solutions are alway's there, just sometimes we need to look outside the square.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:43 am 
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I thought Lucas was really the one player who didn't look up to it - he turned it over far too many times for someone who is meant to be a running wingman. Only 12 possessions, going at 58% with 2 clangers, only 1 inside 50 and contributed more to the Bulldogs hitting the scoreboard than he did to Carlton.

Haven't been a huge Lucas fan either but thought he had his most honest game yesterday. Put his body on the line.
Really pleased with the way we responded when they (Dogs) goalled too.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:49 am 
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Went to the game. Great spot. The kids loved the win.
They have the loudest supporter as their dad and the kids and supporters had lotso fun.

I loved the desperation the boys showed from the first bounce.
They meant business, and I expected them to fade.
A few tired legs out there in the 3rd, notably Tuohy, Scotto...cometh the Judd.
Boys llifted in the last. Found something extra to hold on and then kick some.
Reallyy proud of the never say die attitude.

Definetely a Ratten game plan....imo.
There seemed nothing MMesque about the play.
Diagonal passing, playing on, corridor, speed...that is not MM.

My BOG was Simmo. Unbelievable timing, courage and speed...and skill.
Bell was my 2nd best player...just lloved his toughness and stamina in the last...love him.
Hendo Waite and Casboult fwd targets amazing when they spread and opened up the forwardine.
I am aware Roughead and Morris were missing, nevertheless Hendo was on fiire. Waite was deadly.

A good team effort and really pleased to see Thomas Gibbs Murphy Tuohy all lift. Curnow having a cracking year again...hope its just bruising coz he's so important.

Warnock beat the AA ruckman from Footscray but run out of gas in the last...he didnt stop trying and great to see him throwing is weight over Minson in the last when Miinson was starting to take the ascendency.

Cons

A bit disappointed in Walkers ongoing trend with mistakes galore and trying to do too much. He's a forwward and I still love him.
Rowe is not an AFL player. Sorry but he makes simpple mistakes...did a couple of good things, but....Watson for me.
Lucas doesnt read the game but we need his speed to get to contests. Did that well....prefer Garlett.
Carrazzo hasnt found his mojo...and his kicking....FMD.....prefer Judd to Carrots
Yarran did some great defensive stuff, but for a guy with the skills his foot passing and shots to goal tell me he is ooverrated...did a lot of good things and is a keeper (unless we can get a stronger medfielder for him).
Judd and Curnow injuries couldnt happen at a worse time.


Thanks Carlton for the win...my kids needed the winning fix to take back to Sydney.
Now we will be coming every 2nd home game...with a sense of optimism...the kids that is.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:18 am 
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Solid hard fought win. This effort should be baseline - non-negotiable - standard - default.

Question is, will the players be given the licence or freedom to just 'go out there and play' without, or little of, MM's game plan from here on?

The issue I have, is MM's game plan is years old, and clearly this playing group find it difficult to embrace it. So we are left with a group that's so used to playing 'the Ratten way', and a coach that wants, and is trying to, undo this for a supposed more defensive plan. How do we make calls on players at the end of the year, based on MM's game plan, or the game plan we are most damaging at?

Very conflicted, and smells of 'flying by the seats of our pants'. Not a way to be building for the next premiership assault.

Maybe the way we played yesterday was a sign of the 'new' game plan? Who knows.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:40 am 
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bender wrote:
cuddles wrote:
Kudos to Malthouse for changing the game plan and playing three key talls up forward

We are at our best when we play "fast" footy


he said in his presser that he didn't change it one inch....

only watched a bit of the last qtr, so don't know, but malthouse and truth to the media do not always go hand in hand. he is not the sort of bloke to admit he was wrong, so changing the game plan, even for a win, would be hard to admit


he's well known for his 'downthegutz' playing style.
of course, McKay says it's not changed, it's just that there happened to be more free space in the middle this week.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:13 am 
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BigGartos wrote:
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Even if the blues had lost today, they would have at least been able to tick the workrate, 1%ers and contested ball boxes....no excuse for not being able to get the basics right in a football match. I think this is the main reason members have been angry at the team/club/coach etc in the opening month of football - and rightly so.

THIS.


How about THIS IS BULLSHIT

Ranked 2nd in the AFL for total 1%ers

Ranked 5th in Team to Opponent Contested Possessions Per Game Diff.

Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent One Percenters Per Game Diff.

In fact, we've had more 1% ers than our opposition in EVERY GAME and our contested possession total over the 5 games exceeds our opponent total over 5 games.

If we're going to kick the players, lets make half an attempt to be remotely correct.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:30 am 
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actually we won well.!!. we played a helter skelter style of game.. and then in the end were brave.. but what we played wouldnt cut it against the good sides.
The Dogs are on the verge of that good side status but not there.
Warnock set up the game.. BOG for mine...
Rushing Judd back was silly.
Curnow will be a loss.
The mids stood up
Waite offfered us something.
Hendo is a gun
Daisy and Everitt were very good.. Docherty will add to that.
BUT ... weve been up this road before.

ill be happy when we win a few in a row...

Were miles of the pace... we just elevated ourselves to mid table profile and a chance of being one of the teams to fight out to make the also rans in the finals.
Still much better than how we have been tracking.
As Cretylus said .. look no further than the tackle count as an indicator.


If you play with that intensity, you will win some and lose some. But you can walk off the field without regret and the fans cannot be upset.
We played like that against the Hawks last year and lost (with some dodgy umpring) but it still ranks as one of our better performances.
As St Kilda showed, there are a lot of times you can beat a better opponent because they are not up for the fight

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:35 am 
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I saw it at a pub in Bright with a large crowd and a few beers but I was happy with the effort. That's all we want.

We haven't the best list and some very average players but the most disappointing thing over the first few rounds was we just didn't care. Hopefully yesterday was the start of a change in attitude.

I still believe we are a side that should win between 8-10 games this year but we are a long long way off the top 4. Free wheeling footy is good to watch but doesn't get you anywhere significant. The issues that were raised over the past months still remain BUT when we have a crack and play for the jumper it is bearable. Nothing less should ever be tolerated.

What seemed obvious to me that the shackles were released and we were allowed to play free running footy. That was meant to get there confidence back. IMO it just proved we are a bunch of downhill skiers and the opposition were poor. However, it is good to watch! :wink:

It's important now we keep backing up that effort and playing the kids. At the end of the year major changes still need to be made but efforts like that will make it easier.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:56 am 
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bender wrote:
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Black armbands on a couple of players. Only few though.


for jesus.....


Richmond players wore armbands for Shaun Hampson's dad who passed during the week. Perhaps the players who wore it are still close with Shaun?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:00 pm 
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How much better is it after a win? The radio is on, watched to replay, read the papers, no jokes on facebook.
I might even watch some TV programs this week.


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