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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:26 pm 
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Cas in for Kreuz would be a no-brainer. Up forward we gain more from Cas, around the ground we lose more from not having Kreuz. If Brock comes back we can negate some of that?

Judd is apparently 50/50 on his knee. Can anyone confirm that for sure?

We lose defensively with Bolt.. not sure about forward because he start a round of the yips for goal too...


His field kicking is below standard too.

Great mark though...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:37 pm 
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hey guys, would section 318 be any good?
plus, how do I get to put my barcode in for the discount, and get a carlton section?
am I too late for all that?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:38 pm 
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I think Bolt is the only option. Will hold a swans defender at least semi accountable because of his marking ability.

I don't mind our chances. If Juddy gets up then at least we'll have 22 who we know can runt he game out. If the Swans decide they are going to bring in Goodes to go along with jetta and Rohan, that list of underdone players for them becomes long. And as a team they appeared to be cooked last week. Who knows what is going to happen with McVeigh. If we are thereabouts at half time, I think we are a very good chance - I'm not sure we can cough up a five goal lead and come back against these guys though. They are too experienced and will simply shut the game down. But if we hang with them early, I think it's clear we will run the game out stronger.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:46 pm 
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McLean was never going to play IMO and it showed when we didn't bring in a mid to cover when Ellard was available.

Duigan might not have been in on the shenanigans, he didn't need to be.


True. And I agree with the first bit too.

I wouldn't mind seeing Ellard as sub or even starting. If you ever need a hard tackler it's against Sydney in a final.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:18 pm 
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sitting in bay 142, right behind the goals.


Pretty sure that's where I sat in 2010.

That was a long, shit day.



yeah i was pretty much in the same spot.

cmon, wasn't that bad, we only lost by a kick and had a shot to tie it up in the last minute.

the drive home was long and shit, granted


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:22 pm 
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Left field tip. Rowe to come in and take Tippett or Pyke. Releases Jamison to second forward and Henderson on White.

I also think MM may well go for Cachia or Ellard or both for some more midfield, run with depth.

McLean in. I'd like Casboult in but can't see it happening.


so you've floated half the list to come in, off the back of only forced changes last week.

who would you drop for all these guys?

I reckon no change and brock wont get up.

or forced changes if someone else can't overcome an injury.


:banghead: FFS can you read?????

I suggested possible options because of opposition, NOT all at once, NOT half the list. Bloody Hell


Yes, I can read, and I asked who you'd like to see dropped for any of these potential changes.

so, I repeat, who would you like to see come out for these guys?

I released you didn't mean all of them at once, but you've floated five names.

no need to be so defensive. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:44 pm 
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wooh hoo!!
I'm all booked.
Should be a blast if we win or not.
#believe.
144..near the cheer squad. :grin:
bring it on.
look forward to a wee nip pre game at the Novotel too.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:58 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:16 pm 
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The better we perform in September, the more attractive we become as a destination, for players, staff and even board members, not to mention support and sponsors. If we can beat Sydney and get within 5 goals of Freo, players will suddenly want to come to Carlton to play under the master coach. There really is a lot at stake this week in the bigger picture, including experience and self-belief for younger players in big finals.

We're in the thick of it!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:19 pm 
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aramari wrote:
The better we perform in September, the more attractive we become as a destination, for players, staff and even board members, not to mention support and sponsors. If we can beat Sydney and get within 5 goals of Freo, players will suddenly want to come to Carlton to play under the master coach. There really is a lot at stake this week in the bigger picture, including experience and self-belief for younger players in big finals.

We're in the thick of it!


Hopefully Dids, Krak and Jolly Jumbuck like our chances! :lol:
:donk: :donk:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:22 pm 
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aramari wrote:
The better we perform in September, the more attractive we become as a destination, for players, staff and even board members, not to mention support and sponsors. If we can beat Sydney and get within 5 goals of Freo, players will suddenly want to come to Carlton to play under the master coach. There really is a lot at stake this week in the bigger picture, including experience and self-belief for younger players in big finals.

We're in the thick of it!


Plus it boosts the value of our players. Those people who want us to finish lower to get an earlier pick dont understand that.
Winning always beats losing.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:37 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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The better we perform in September, the more attractive we become as a destination, for players, staff and even board members, not to mention support and sponsors. If we can beat Sydney and get within 5 goals of Freo, players will suddenly want to come to Carlton to play under the master coach. There really is a lot at stake this week in the bigger picture, including experience and self-belief for younger players in big finals.

We're in the thick of it!


Plus it boosts the value of our players. Those people who want us to finish lower to get an earlier pick dont understand that.
Winning always beats losing.


:thumbsup: To both of these statements.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:59 pm 
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I hope they drop White for Goodes and play him as a permanent forward, because that'd help us.

Otherwise you'd have to think it's Casboult for Kreuzer (if injured) and McLean a chance if he's actually fit (Menzel would be the unlucky one). But that'd be it for changes.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:09 pm 
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can't see Sydney folding like the tigers did in the 2nd half - we can't afford to give up a 5 goal lead again at half time


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:13 pm 
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can't see Sydney folding like the tigers did in the 2nd half - we can't afford to give up a 5 goal lead again at half time


I don't have any stats but a remember a few average Swans second halves this year. Against us in the wet, against Geelong up there and both times against the Hawks in the last two weeks.

Yes, harder than the Tigers, but not like last year.

Edit.

Just had a look at the last month and the Swans year in general.

They also fell away badly the last time against the Pies and their draw has been very very good, but they have lost 4 of their last 5 and all of those losses were fall away after half time apart from Geelong, where they were never in it at skilled stadium.

So, in a way, you are right and wrong.

It looks like the key is to stay close till half time and then hopefully they fall away.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:13 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
aramari wrote:
The better we perform in September, the more attractive we become as a destination, for players, staff and even board members, not to mention support and sponsors. If we can beat Sydney and get within 5 goals of Freo, players will suddenly want to come to Carlton to play under the master coach. There really is a lot at stake this week in the bigger picture, including experience and self-belief for younger players in big finals.

We're in the thick of it!


Plus it boosts the value of our players. Those people who want us to finish lower to get an earlier pick dont understand that.
Winning always beats losing.


:thumbsup: To both of these statements.


Until last week I had no hope for this list. "Chuck 'em all out".

The list hasn't changed overnight, and we still have major issues. But if an average team like this starts having success, that can build into something special, if you have enough luck, and enough good people on the same page.

Sydney 8 years ago were aging and given no chance, and they won a flag. Part of the magic of team sport is the alchemy of success. 80% of the time a club is successful due to ticking all the boxes and building methodically. But sometimes it's one appointment, one tactical trick, one stirring performance, one mantra, one courageous act, that franks a lot of hard work and flicks the switch to "#believe". That romance is what gets the punters coming back to the game.

Without belief, all we have is process - follow the right recruiting and development protocols etc. We still haven't got this stuff right, and it kills me! But the beauty of finals is that once you're in, you're a chance. And whether you win the flag or not, if you can play well in finals, you realize that you can really play!

This ability to get the players believing in themselves and each other is what makes a great coach, and while it's early in Mick's stay, I now have hope that he can make this hitherto meek and disorganised group of players into a cohesive, mature, brutal and efficient team.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:51 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Cas in for Kreuz would be a no-brainer. Up forward we gain more from Cas, around the ground we lose more from not having Kreuz. If Brock comes back we can negate some of that?

Judd is apparently 50/50 on his knee. Can anyone confirm that for sure?


See I think in a lot of ways we gain more around the ground with Cas too. In the first half against Richmond when their pressure was up and we couldn't get any run going and were forced to bombing it long up to contests on the wings, how many times were we crying out for someone who could just take a strong contested mark to relieve the pressure.

Kreuzer and Warnock DID NOT TAKE ONE MARK IN THE GAME BETWEEN THEM!
That is absolutely staggering for mine. The 2 tallest blokes on the team couldn't take one %$#&^ mark.

I would have levi leading up to the wings for an outlet coming out of the backline when we are under the pump.
If Warnock can ruck 80% of the game I think we'll be better off with Levi in...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:55 pm 
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I would love to go up for the game. I went to 2 interstate trips already this year and a bit expensive for me.
Has the club organised any buses up, a cheaper option would be good.
At this stage i will be watching from Visy Park.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:06 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
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Cas in for Kreuz would be a no-brainer. Up forward we gain more from Cas, around the ground we lose more from not having Kreuz. If Brock comes back we can negate some of that?

Judd is apparently 50/50 on his knee. Can anyone confirm that for sure?


See I think in a lot of ways we gain more around the ground with Cas too. In the first half against Richmond when their pressure was up and we couldn't get any run going and were forced to bombing it long up to contests on the wings, how many times were we crying out for someone who could just take a strong contested mark to relieve the pressure.

Kreuzer and Warnock DID NOT TAKE ONE MARK IN THE GAME BETWEEN THEM!
That is absolutely staggering for mine. The 2 tallest blokes on the team couldn't take one %$#&^ mark.

I would have levi leading up to the wings for an outlet coming out of the backline when we are under the pump.
If Warnock can ruck 80% of the game I think we'll be better off with Levi in...


Having Cas take 3-4 huge contested marks up the wings has not resulted in us winning too many games this year. You need to weigh up the positives that come with those marks against the negatives of having big Cas hold us back defensively, running out of puff after half time and momentum sapping terrible field and goal kicking.
I think he should come in for Krooz as we have no other choice unless Rowe is training the house down and Casboult is sulking and talking about leaving.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:09 pm 
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aramari wrote:
This ability to get the players believing in themselves and each other is what makes a great coach, and while it's early in Mick's stay, I now have hope that he can make this hitherto meek and disorganised group of players into a cohesive, mature, brutal and efficient team.


Yes. Mind you the previous coach had us in this same situation 2 years ago but if you think its all about Mick, knock yourself out.
The truth is the players have performed well and deserve to be there. Yes the coaches have contributed well, but to suggest Mick is solely responsible for our current position is mind boggling

"Meek and disorganised group of players" :lol:
What a load of shit.
It makes you wonder what some people on this site view as being a "supporter"

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