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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:09 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:13 pm 
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Need the extra height in the back. Need to play Hendo & Waite forward to get the best opportunity.
Without Watson ... must bring in Laidler! Lets roll the dice...

Tuohy Jamison Laidler
Walker McInnes Yarran
Gibbs Curnow Simpson
Robinson Henderson Garlett
Kruezer Waite Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Bell Armfield
sub; Duigan

In: Judd, Scotland, Laidler
Out: Menzel, Ellard, Casboult

* McLean - probably won't get up

Gibbs vs Deledio - Curnow vs Cotchin
Laider vs McGuane - McInnes vs Vickery - Jamison vs Riewoldt


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:15 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
blueboy23 wrote:
So if judd, McLean and Scotland come in,
who goes out??
Ellard would be one, hope menzel stays in..
Maybe casboult??

If Judd, McLean and Scotland came in I'd drop Ellard, Casboult and Bell.


If all three got up i would go for them changes although i don't reckon all three will get up.

Casboult out. Too costly with bad kicking. Field and goal kicking. When they have the ball we are a lot weaker with him in the 22 also. Great mark though.

Ellard out Brock or Judd in works for me.

Throw out all the Malthouse methods and just let them play and run and use the corridor and have fun.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:18 pm 
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madblue21 wrote:
Any word on hendo? Apparently was on crutches after the game?


Didnt know this, but he did look injured during the game to me - he wasnt moving as freely as usual. Looked a bit hesitant.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:21 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:

* McLean - probably won't get up



I'd reckon McLean was a lot more likely than Judd to get up. Not that I would pick Judd anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:26 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
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* McLean - probably won't get up



I'd reckon McLean was a lot more likely than Judd to get up. Not that I would pick Judd anyway.


Yep - then he comes in for Duigan. Bell is sub.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:28 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
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* McLean - probably won't get up



I'd reckon McLean was a lot more likely than Judd to get up. Not that I would pick Judd anyway.


Yep - then he comes in for Duigan. Bell is sub.


And why are you picking Laidler? Makes no sense.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:39 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
No problem Jake.

Also the AFL Ladder predictor still has the drug cheats in the finals.

Nice work AFL


I can't believe someone can remove the * from the ladder predictor :donk: .

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:01 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Need the extra height in the back. Need to play Hendo & Waite forward to get the best opportunity.
Without Watson ... must bring in Laidler! Lets roll the dice...

Tuohy Jamison Laidler
Walker McInnes Yarran
Gibbs Curnow Simpson
Robinson Henderson Garlett
Kruezer Waite Betts
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Bell Armfield
sub; Duigan

In: Judd, Scotland, Laidler
Out: Menzel, Ellard, Casboult

* McLean - probably won't get up

Gibbs vs Deledio - Curnow vs Cotchin
Laider vs McGuane - McInnes vs Vickery - Jamison vs Riewoldt


Why would MM pick Laidler when hasn't all year? Menzel won't be dropped, have a look at the last quarter again and you'll see why.

For me the conundrum is Warnock, Kruezer and Casboult. Warnock has a history of playing really well in our finals, so that probably means he plays. Which leaves Kruezer V Casboult. Kruezer only had 3 possies for the whole game, granted some of his 1% were good. The Bolt had 6 disposals and four marks in the first quarter. I'm of the opinion that we can't play both Warnock and Kruezer in the same team, it renders one of them ineffective, they are both ruckmen and not a forwards you know what. Casboult on the other hand has some runs on the board as a forward, does OK when he pinch hits in the ruck and can take big pack marks that the other two could only dream about. The obvious flaw, his kicking.

Conundrum.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:04 pm 
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Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.

And you can't take Kreuzer's stats as proof of a poor game. What he does at ground level, in marking contests, at boundary throwins leaves Casbolt for dead.

No discussion in my mind, Kreuz and Warnock to share ruckwork.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:07 pm 
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Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.


I disagree Duke.

It could be that 3 or four quality possessions could determine the outcome, particularly late.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:09 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
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Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.


I disagree Duke.

It could be that 3 or four quality possessions could determine the outcome, particularly late.


So keep Menz instead of Juddy? :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:11 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
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Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.


I disagree Duke.

It could be that 3 or four quality possessions could determine the outcome, particularly late.


So keep Menz instead of Juddy? :razz:

Judd wont come up.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:11 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.


I disagree Duke.

It could be that 3 or four quality possessions could determine the outcome, particularly late.


So keep Menz instead of Juddy? :razz:


:lol:

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DocSherrin wrote:
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* McLean - probably won't get up



I'd reckon McLean was a lot more likely than Judd to get up. Not that I would pick Judd anyway.


Yep - then he comes in for Duigan. Bell is sub.


And why are you picking Laidler? Makes no sense.


Doc - I said we need the extra height in defence. Need to cover Vickery, Riewoldt & McGuane. Want to play Hendo & Waite forward to stretch their defence. My conundrum is, as others have mentioned - Cazzy, Krooz & Robbie. I went with the latte 2. Wouldn't be surprised if the MC didn't but will be interesting.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:19 pm 
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just play kreuzer on vickery.... jamo on riewoldt
and have the thers mopping up...
play only 2 forwards kpp waite and hendo
that will put the cat in among the pidgeons.. with betts and garlett getting attention... menzel will break free for a couple of fast ones.

we should be favourites for this game.... but i dont mind that were not...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:20 pm 
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..i actually wouldn't drop a tall.. ..i'd play Waite[vickery] down back with Jamo[J8] as my talls, and i'd have Bolt play kpf with Hendo.. ..Knockers and Krooz to ruck combo, Maric is buggered and matches up poorly vs both our rucks, and his ruck backup is even worse..

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:25 pm 
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bluechucky wrote:
The Duke wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Menz should be omitted. Not because he played a very bad game, but because he is 18 and there are harder, more mature bodies available. If we want to win this final, we must give ourselves the best chance possible.

Taking in kids when we have men available is not how to win finals.


I disagree Duke.

It could be that 3 or four quality possessions could determine the outcome, particularly late.


So keep Menz instead of Juddy? :razz:

Judd wont come up.


I love Menz - I think he'll play 250+ but I wouldn't take him into this game unless Scotland, Judd or Brock all didn't come up.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Henda's form has been patchy as a KPF in the last 3 weeks and the defensive wall on the press looks better with him in it marking.

Jamo on rewaldt
Henda on Vickery
Mcinnes on Edwards/mcguane (this one is the worry. wish white was fit)

Kruezer and Waite and Duigan in the forward line.

Yaz and Walker behind the ball with license to run. We wear it if they get caught once or twice.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:41 pm 
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Can't understand the calls to drop menz.
Here we have a kid who has show some real class, doesn't mind the hard stuff, can snag a few goals and we unanimously agree he could be a 200+ gamer. We also have no chance of winning a flag in '13.
Why wouldn't we give this potential star a taste of finals now?? It's not as if we have 6 or 7 gun kids coming through the ranks to take us into the future, menz is the future and no better opportunity to give this kid a taste of what it takes.
Just seems silly to drop him for a player or players who may not even be here next year

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