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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:03 pm 
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Hampson played with hard hands at timesAnd he looked clumsy by hand or foot.
I've seen him look amazing doing the same things, but

He got himself to contests from speed and desire better than any other KPF.
His opponents the KPBs didnt mark against him.
Brought the ball down to a contest: just add Eddie Betts.

Shouldnt underestimate what Hammer brings to the table.
And when they do stick for him and he kicks straight: bags.

I think they'll be no change to the bigmen.
I wouldnt cry if Casboult came in.

...but I'm from the camp that there should always be a bonafide 2nd ruckman available in case of injury,
especially in a GF.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:07 pm 
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Warnock 206 and Hampson 203 will work over Jacobs 200.

Stop the supply to thier midfield and that would strangle them.
If our rucks can score 2-3 goals as well as provide crumbs, we should smack them.

Its good to see our midfield hitting the goals, indeed HB's too with Walker kicking one.
I'm feeling really good about this came.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:05 pm 
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There are 4 keys to Adelaide. Dangerfield, Sloan, Thompson & Walker. If we can negate their influence it will go a long way to determining the outcome.
Dangerfield played across half forward with runs in the midfield against WB and was BOG. Andrew Walker is the logical match up wherever he plays and if he goes well will go a long way to determining the result.
Carrots has to go to Thompson who is not fast, butchers a few disposals, but gets lots of it. Similar players really.
Sloan is the one that worries me most because he is an elite gut runner and I don't see a natural match up unless Armfield and Joseph can both spend time running with him. People outside Adelaide may not know much about this guy, but watch him go on Saturday - and we ignore him at our peril.
Walker will be picked up by Jammo or Henderson so not many options there, other than to limit quality supply with midfield pressure like last week.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:19 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
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Murphy is a good example of a forward runner who over the first month has really worked on his defensive game. Thought his effort Saturday night was great.

I've never been a fan of Judd's defensive pressure outside of the immediate vicinity. He very rarely chases, simple.

Bell is the same as Judd except he isn't A superstar with credits in the bank. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I don't think he'll make it until he changes his style and runs hard both ways.

The oppositing know Judd doesnt work hard the other way and exploit it.

When you grade a footballer you cannot in this day and age grade them only with the ball in their hands.

Judd is an old dog who must learn new tricks...he is abe bodied .... no excuses... !!!.... its becoming more and more apparent each players are instrcted to run away from him and get involved.There is abit of the late Kouta syndrome going on with Juddy and if he is not careful the game will overtake him at a rate of knots.

He is one of my favourite players but hes fast becoming the elephant in the room and the sacred cow all rolled into one.

We really cant afford this with the Malthouse style.

Swann is a fatty to look at and yet he doesnt stop!!!....same with all modern day footballers worth a pinch of


Swan doesn't chase. Poor example.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:56 am 
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If Curnow stays in, it's illogical if he doesn't because he did a great job, then he's the logical matchup for Sloane - both elite runners

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:57 am 
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Synbad wrote:
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Why is that?, he didn't have a interpreted preseason did he?, if im not mistaken this has been his first full preseason? fatigue perhaps?--boh


No idea Denim.
Is it possible that one has only so many minutes in him?

He looks 30 yet he's only still 21. Plenty of time to get things right before he really explodes.
Whichever way I think we've done pretty well for a rookie selection. Synbad?


I think he's been a very good rookie get for sure. Gee i wish his fitness gets better. I remember last year he came good after having played a good deal of games in the VFL, perhaps he s one of those that really needs a longer sustained fitness program rather than a short intense one.. he ll come good i think

The malthouse gameplan is a taxing one.. you must be able to run and be fit!!!... so Bell to have any chance of making it.. cant slip away and he must get himself super fit.. same as everyody else... Chris Judd too!!!... and everybody must work to the plan...its the only way its going to work...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:12 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
Murphy is a good example of a forward runner who over the first month has really worked on his defensive game. Thought his effort Saturday night was great.

I've never been a fan of Judd's defensive pressure outside of the immediate vicinity. He very rarely chases, simple.

Bell is the same as Judd except he isn't A superstar with credits in the bank. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I don't think he'll make it until he changes his style and runs hard both ways.

The oppositing know Judd doesnt work hard the other way and exploit it.

When you grade a footballer you cannot in this day and age grade them only with the ball in their hands.

Judd is an old dog who must learn new tricks...he is abe bodied .... no excuses... !!!.... its becoming more and more apparent each players are instrcted to run away from him and get involved.There is abit of the late Kouta syndrome going on with Juddy and if he is not careful the game will overtake him at a rate of knots.

He is one of my favourite players but hes fast becoming the elephant in the room and the sacred cow all rolled into one.

We really cant afford this with the Malthouse style.

Swann is a fatty to look at and yet he doesnt stop!!!....same with all modern day footballers worth a pinch of


Swan doesn't chase. Poor example.


oh bullshit!!!
you obviously dont watch him CLOSELY enough
one minute he is picking kicks up in defence and helping out....the next minute hes bobbing up in the forward line kicking goals.
he doesnt get 40 kicks a game by not working hard... impossible...!!!
he might look move a duck ... but he is not a lazy footballer

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:43 am 
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Out hampson & Joseph
In. Casboult & Ellard

Hampson even though is crashing packs is useless at impacting scoreboard himself, casboult has better chance of becoming key fwd and can crash packs as well.
Ellard is a bloke that will flourish if given the chance otherwise he'll do it for someone else next season, he racks up touches, runs all day, hard as nails and always seems to hit the scoreboard, 2 BOG performances in the reserves, he's earned a call up.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:47 am 
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Hibbo wrote:
Out hampson & Joseph
In. Casboult & Ellard

Hampson even though is crashing packs is useless at impacting scoreboard himself, casboult has better chance of becoming key fwd and can crash packs as well.
Ellard is a bloke that will flourish if given the chance otherwise he'll do it for someone else next season, he racks up touches, runs all day, hard as nails and always seems to hit the scoreboard, 2 BOG performances in the reserves, he's earned a call up.


Agree. If Eddie comes straight back in then swap for Curnow.

Really like to see a forward line of Casboult, Rowe, Henderson, Yarran, Betts, Garlett. :smoking:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:34 am 
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When do you think Casboult is a better chance at becoming a key fwd??? Doubt it is in round 5 2013.

Fantastic that Casboult played a good game in the VFL, but let's see if he can put 5 together before bringing him back in. He was by far the worst player on the ground in his two games this year- BY FAR.

Henderson as a forward would be nice to see, but it aint going to happen. There is no-one putting their hand up to be CHB.

Rowe/Hampson/Yarran/Garlett/Betts/Armfield is the best option for round 5 2013 (If Betts is actually available)
Hibbo wrote:
Out hampson & Joseph
In. Casboult & Ellard

Hampson even though is crashing packs is useless at impacting scoreboard himself, casboult has better chance of becoming key fwd and can crash packs as well.
Ellard is a bloke that will flourish if given the chance otherwise he'll do it for someone else next season, he racks up touches, runs all day, hard as nails and always seems to hit the scoreboard, 2 BOG performances in the reserves, he's earned a call up.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:04 pm 
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london blue wrote:
Like the way MM has been mixing up our game plan to suit the opposition and adjust as he learns more about the group.

A big body with a very good engine that lays into Dangerfield at every option would be pleasant - that won't be carrotts, curnow or joseph.....maybe armfield? Would like to see Bell given the chance



Might be a combination of Bell at the stoppages - with Armfield catching him around the ground.

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I'd prefer to see one guy go with dangerfield, having two blokes do a job on a single guy can cause confusion such as " I thought you had him covered " which can have the opposite effect of letting the bloke being tagged off the leash.

Probably Armfield for mine.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:15 pm 
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Asp wrote:
There are 4 keys to Adelaide. Dangerfield, Sloan, Thompson & Walker. If we can negate their influence it will go a long way to determining the outcome.


I'd put Jacobs in front of all of them, he has a very good record against us, he starts it all.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:46 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
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What is this meterage measurement Malthouse has been talking about in press conferences (not inviting a stats in presser rant or Ratts rant) ?

It would be interesting to know how it is measured and if its done individually or as team or both. Then it would be interesting to see where Judd sits with such a stat. It seems really important to Malthouse and his plan. If Judds results are terrible id say he would get dropped. I doubt his numbers would be too bad this season as he has been good attacking (assuming metres gained). I have seen him chase a bit also. Not so much against WC.


He did mention about metres for Hurn and Army keeping him to 80 in the first half but he made 300 in the whole game.


The backs, mids and forwards have targets for metreage, something like at least 2km per group and 6km overall? Saw it at a pre-game briefing. Must be a good indicator of work rate.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:55 pm 
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Please MM ... No bombing into the fwd line hoping for a pack mark. Defense at stoppages paramount. Stick with what you tried last week ... A vast improvement in tactics. Move the ball fast ... play to our strengths.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:49 pm 
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Interesting we are ranked last in Free kicks for at Only 63, 15.7 avg. the next lowest team(s) have 11 frees more on 74 (Coll & Stk).

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:15 pm 
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Tend to agree re: Judd, especially with a view to what we offer him at the year.

I think you said no more than 450k, Synbad? Even then I reckon it's too much. I'm somewhat unrealistic in hoping he'd play a final year at minimum wage as a goodwill gesture to the club, but at this stage, lean toward that extra salary being more beneficial in clearing out dead wood a year earlier than we could without that cap space.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:48 pm 
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Don't think "good" teams are going to allow Yarran and Garlett space behind them to run into like last weekend, the old quarterback or loose man in defense tactic will come into play. It's when teams play that loose man in our forward line we struggle taking the ball forward, the long bombs just get rebounded and we get caught out going the other way. Expecting Crows to do that this week. Manning them up and creating a 7 man forward line just clogs up our forward 50 whereas other teams seem to have all the space available.
See what Micky has up his sleeve this week...
I'm expecting Dangerfield is going to try and crash into Murphy first chance he gets....

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:58 pm 
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Opposition may try to stop Yazz & Jeffy. But once Eddie is back, it's a tough ask for an opposition to try stop all 3.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:04 pm 
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Don't think "good" teams are going to allow Yarran and Garlett space behind them to run into like last weekend, the old quarterback or loose man in defense tactic will come into play. It's when teams play that loose man in our forward line we struggle taking the ball forward, the long bombs just get rebounded and we get caught out going the other way. Expecting Crows to do that this week. Manning them up and creating a 7 man forward line just clogs up our forward 50 whereas other teams seem to have all the space available.
See what Micky has up his sleeve this week...
I'm expecting Dangerfield is going to try and crash into Murphy first chance he gets....

I was amazed West Coast allowed it to happen. Yarran getting out into space once is one thing but three times in the space of a quarter? That's incompetent coaching. We can't expect that again any time soon.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:14 pm 
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woof wrote:
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There are 4 keys to Adelaide. Dangerfield, Sloan, Thompson & Walker. If we can negate their influence it will go a long way to determining the outcome.


I'd put Jacobs in front of all of them, he has a very good record against us, he starts it all.

He has been stuggling a bit this year after a great 2012, but now that I have said that he will probably have a blinder.


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