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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:09 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
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I get the feeling the media are now going to turn on Malthouse and indirectly us.
This is being driven by others within the media, me thinks. Watch this space!



You mean turn on us more?


Yep either way it's not going to be pretty. We need a plan me thinks to counter these vultures. Plan and execute to kill discussions at the very start.



Could be tough when our PR and Communications people rank below the equivalents at the local kinder.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:18 pm 
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full press conference is up at CFC TV youtube
[youtube]0uAl1uZXEPo[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:37 pm 
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I recommend if you haven't already, as Carlton supporter to read his book written with David Buttifant.

His philosophies are basically the exact opposite of everything that people complain about that is, and has been wrong with our club for the last five, ten, do I hear fifteen years.

You read paragraphs and find yourself nodding when he talks about team ethos, non reliance on individuals, giving clear messages, indentifying leaders, pushing the boundaries, being able to balance long term goals with short term ones etc etc.

As long as the dementia hasn't fully taken over, I reassure myself with the fact that MM would not take any job that would make him look the fool.

He is heavily involved in the industry. He works with recently retired players, he would have sort their opinion on our club, our list, what it was like to play against them, how well they thought we were coached, and what do they see as our deficiencies.

The assistants (or lieutenants!) that he chooses will be chosen for a reason. Sure they will be his mates, cronies, whatever but unlike the last 5 years of Ratts/Riley and a revolving door of hand picked assistants they will all be pushing in the one direction.

McKay has been looking at this area for months now. MM would have a heap of guys he could call on, but will choose the ones he believes that will best suit the areas that those still in charge believe need the most work.

He had a poor GF in '11 there's no denying that, but the manic intensity that he had that side playing at for that 2-3 year period has not been repeated in 2012.

The game that we played them in Round 17 2010 has stuck with me. We held on for what felt like about 8 minutes and from then on we were slaughtered. It wasn't about poor kicking, missed shots, shallow forward entries, kicking pockets, we just got overwhelmed by their intensity. We never looked like scoring. 25 shots to 5 at 3/4 time said it all.

He had the likes of Leigh Brown, Alan Toovey, Brent McCaffer, Jared Blair, Harry OBrien, Nick Maxwell, Tyson Goldsack playing above themselves by instilling belief that they were just as important to the team as anyone else. Pendlebury went to another level, Thomas went from a flaky outside player to a gut running, tackling machine.

Anyway BV will probably say his book and preachings are not worth wiping your arse with, and I respect his opinion. I understand that this could easily go pear shaped. Unlike 10 years ago where I naively ignored the warning from Kangaroos supporters due to what I thought was jealously, I will remain cautiously optimistic before being proved otherwise.....

....Until then at the very worst, just purely wanting to believe will at least get me through the Summer...

Full buy-in!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:42 pm 
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Thanks Wookie. Just looked at the pressa and must say, if Mick is not fired up for this job and have something to prove then no-one is.
This will be interesting.
Sticks is a gentleman of the highest order - respect!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
I recommend if you haven't already, as Carlton supporter to read his book written with David Buttifant.

His philosophies are basically the exact opposite of everything that people complain about that is, and has been wrong with our club for the last five, ten, do I hear fifteen years.

You read paragraphs and find yourself nodding when he talks about team ethos, non reliance on individuals, giving clear messages, indentifying leaders, pushing the boundaries, being able to balance long term goals with short term ones etc etc.

As long as the dementia hasn't fully taken over, I reassure myself with the fact that MM would not take any job that would make him look the fool.

He is heavily involved in the industry. He works with recently retired players, he would have sort their opinion on our club, our list, what it was like to play against them, how well they thought we were coached, and what do they see as our deficiencies.

The assistants (or lieutenants!) that he chooses will be chosen for a reason. Sure they will be his mates, cronies, whatever but unlike the last 5 years of Ratts/Riley and a revolving door of hand picked assistants they will all be pushing in the one direction.

McKay has been looking at this area for months now. MM would have a heap of guys he could call on, but will choose the ones he believes that will best suit the areas that those still in charge believe need the most work.

He had a poor GF in '11 there's no denying that, but the manic intensity that he had that side playing at for that 2-3 year period has not been repeated in 2012.

The game that we played them in Round 17 2010 has stuck with me. We held on for what felt like about 8 minutes and from then on we were slaughtered. It wasn't about poor kicking, missed shots, shallow forward entries, kicking pockets, we just got overwhelmed by their intensity. We never looked like scoring. 25 shots to 5 at 3/4 time said it all.

He had the likes of Leigh Brown, Alan Toovey, Brent McCaffer, Jared Blair, Harry OBrien, Nick Maxwell, Tyson Goldsack playing above themselves by instilling belief that they were just as important to the team as anyone else. Pendlebury went to another level, Thomas went from a flaky outside player to a gut running, tackling machine.

Anyway BV will probably say his book and preachings are not worth wiping your arse with, and I respect his opinion. I understand that this could easily go pear shaped. Unlike 10 years ago where I naively ignored the warning from Kangaroos supporters due to what I thought was jealously, I will remain cautiously optimistic before being proved otherwise.....

....Until then at the very worst, just purely wanting to believe will at least get me through the Summer...

Full buy-in!


Great post! :clap:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:54 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Thanks Wookie. Just looked at the pressa and must say, if Mick is not fired up for this job and have something to prove then no-one is.
This will be interesting.
Sticks is a gentleman of the highest order - respect!

Fail to see how you could not be impressed by this man. Certainly on a higher plane than previous incumbents. Even Yoda like to a certain extent. Love the way he puts the media in their place.

Knows where he wants to go and take the club, might not suit everyone, but to me it's light years ahead of what we have had in the last ten years in terms of vision, leadership and the focus on getting the best out of our team. Got to say I'm a bit "Big Kev" at the moment. Bummer that it's so long before we see any results on the field.

Bring on 2013 I say :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:04 pm 
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welcome aboad MM. I think we can be guaranteed that life is never going to be dull with Mick at the helm. I'm excited but, like Mrs Caz, just a touch scared!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:22 pm 
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This will prove to be the best decision the club has made in 20 years.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:30 pm 
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Well "its time" as the labor party once said.

Parkin is our greatest coach, but just turned 70 so wasnt an option... but we all loved the vein
Barassi we loved what he gave us, hardness and swagger.
Pagan never really had the cattle and the support he needed

Malthouse is 59 and is one of the best in the business, so its time to get serious.

We don't do panel interviews like St. Kilda, Richmond, Melbourne, Port and other clubs with no clue.

We decide what we want and we get it. So welcome Mic Malthouse.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:34 pm 
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It is so good to see everyone happy about the MM appointment. There is a positive vibe on talking Carlton for once, which is great.

I respect MM as a coach, still think we are paying overs, but as long as he delivers no. 17, who cares.

I still need him to bag the @#$#@ out of Eddie and Collingwood to feel he is true blue


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:13 am 
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Very impressed with what Malthouse had to say today. Human nature dictates that there'll be one or two players who won't see eye to eye with Mick, but on today's performance I would back him to coach more than a few to play at levels above where they are at now.

On Mick's criticism of the 'structure', I was reminded of my impression when I first noticed the team split into groups at quarter time breaks when I saw the dogs game live. It was the first time I had seen the players split up in such a way at qtime huddles. I was a bit shocked by this as it seemed like a confusion of understanding about the game. I realise that Mick was talking primarily re: assistant coaching stuff, but I wondered if he wasn't also meaning the whole way that team structures have been managed (and coached) at the club.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:20 am 
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You can feel that sense of leadership already. Even as a supporter, finally you feel that your club is protected in the face of any impeding verbal/perceptive assault/s which are part and parcel of being a major club). This will no doubt translate through to the players to their personal growth and to performance on-field.

welcome to the blues MM.

Bring on 2013.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:21 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:33 am 
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http://www.themonthly.com.au/thinking-f ... nagan-6030

Found this on BF. If you havn't seen it, do yourself a favour and watch it. Gives great insight as how to Malthouse ticks.

I was a skeptic before watching the interview, Now I walk away confident in the decision made by the club.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:42 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:57 am 
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Chalk and cheese compared to Ratts in terms of how engaging he is when you look at that press conference.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:13 am 
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love it

can not wait for the season

this is going to be the longest off season in memory

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:35 am 
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Well this is the first time ive commented on MM as the game of will he wont he
just didnt tittilate me that much.

But now that he is officially OUR coach i wish him the best of british.

But like Parkin who is often referred to as "that Hawthorn bloke", i flatly refuse
to acknowledge him as that Collingwood bloke.

I feel far more comfortable calling him the ex Eagles coach, ex Footscray coach
or the ex Richmond and Stkilda plodding foot soldier type of player.

Should be interesting times to say the least, especially after match pressers.

I hope with all my heart he can take us to the land of milk and honey.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:40 am 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Anyway BV will probably say his book and preachings are not worth wiping your arse with,


Not unless they come in 2 ply! :grin:

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On Mick's criticism of the 'structure', I was reminded of my impression when I first noticed the team split into groups at quarter time breaks when I saw the dogs game live. It was the first time I had seen the players split up in such a way at qtime huddles. I was a bit shocked by this as it seemed like a confusion of understanding about the game.


Please tell me this isnt a serious comment.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:58 am 
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25 was always special wrote:
Well this is the first time ive commented on MM as the game of will he wont he
just didnt tittilate me that much.

But now that he is officially OUR coach i wish him the best of british.

But like Parkin who is often referred to as "that Hawthorn bloke", i flatly refuse
to acknowledge him as that Collingwood bloke.



Parkin used to disparagingly refer to himself as that during his first season with us in 1981 - and even mentioned it during a speech to members in a 1981 premiership celebration members function. :wink:

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