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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:48 am 
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On today's showing Davies and Curnow are cooked. White showed a little, not a lot. Hopefully he gets a couple more games.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:46 am 
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I'm not sure that he will ultimately make it, but I think it's a bit harsh to write off Davies at this stage. Not sure what people were expecting yesterday, given he came into the game in defence when the game was already out of reach. He did struggle early last week (albeit in his first senior game for the season and coming off limited preparation). He is still young and has only played the 15 games. He was good enough to play in two finals last season and has had most of 2012 destroyed by injury. I'd lean towards keeping him (and think he will be kept) for 2013.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:06 am 
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Senior list:
White (has his positives, but too short to play the KPD role)
Joseph (I cannot stress how much this hotheaded fool needs to be shown the door; costs us multiple goals on a weekly basis)
Davies (herpa derp derp derps in his primary role)
Kerr (simply hasn't shown enough with all the talent he has to offer)

Rookie list:
Heyne (has not improved as much as hoped; squandered 2nd chance)


Elevations:
Tuohy (no brainer)
Curnow (a lot to work with and needs more time in an AFL environment to round out his game)

That still leaves another senior list deletion to allow for three draft choices. Russell, Ellard, Thornton and McLean would all rate a mention in most circles, but Russell and Ellard are streets ahead for that position in my mind.

I should also note that to the best of my knowledge, Casboult, Carter and Curnow are on their final year of rookie eligibility, though one of Carter and Curnow can assume the third-year rookie slot. I think Carter is a real chance because we will need smaller players with pace and defensive application, and we can't entirely rely on new names to provide this in the absence of Joseph, Davies and potentially Russell and/or Ellard.

Casboult is putting his hand up to stay on and get elevation to the senior list, but his kicking really is quite horrible and would want to see rapid progress to cement that. Additionally, we'd be carrying him as our 6th tall forward option into the next season. O'Keeffe is another who apparently has almost put himself back into 50/50 range, but has an abhorrent record with injuries.

Trade options are Bower, Thornton and Warnock in my mind. Would rather reinvest in a new option as that legitimate 203+ cm ruckman who wins on reach alone than stick with a bloke who averages 10 games a season due to injury and form, and doesn't put his body in enough because it's made of chalk. Bower & Thornton are talented, but it's probably at the point now where one has to make way for the sake of list balance, and turnover through the tall stocks at both ends. Sell on one of them for a good price and reinvest it in the draft.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:03 am 
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Blues2005 wrote:
I'm not sure that he will ultimately make it, but I think it's a bit harsh to write off Davies at this stage. Not sure what people were expecting yesterday, given he came into the game in defence when the game was already out of reach. He did struggle early last week (albeit in his first senior game for the season and coming off limited preparation). He is still young and has only played the 15 games. He was good enough to play in two finals last season and has had most of 2012 destroyed by injury. I'd lean towards keeping him (and think he will be kept) for 2013.

He isnt skilled enough and we have too many players that are hbfers.
He should be in that rocket to be fired up into space.... has he even played one game without a MAJOR mistake???

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:28 am 
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Has any player ever played a game without making a mistake? FMD the amount of perfection on TC is staggering.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:35 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
I'm not sure that he will ultimately make it, but I think it's a bit harsh to write off Davies at this stage. Not sure what people were expecting yesterday, given he came into the game in defence when the game was already out of reach. He did struggle early last week (albeit in his first senior game for the season and coming off limited preparation). He is still young and has only played the 15 games. He was good enough to play in two finals last season and has had most of 2012 destroyed by injury. I'd lean towards keeping him (and think he will be kept) for 2013.

He isnt skilled enough and we have too many players that are hbfers.
He should be in that rocket to be fired up into space.... has he even played one game without a MAJOR mistake???


Yes and he has a fat arse as well

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:43 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
I'm not sure that he will ultimately make it, but I think it's a bit harsh to write off Davies at this stage. Not sure what people were expecting yesterday, given he came into the game in defence when the game was already out of reach. He did struggle early last week (albeit in his first senior game for the season and coming off limited preparation). He is still young and has only played the 15 games. He was good enough to play in two finals last season and has had most of 2012 destroyed by injury. I'd lean towards keeping him (and think he will be kept) for 2013.

He isnt skilled enough and we have too many players that are hbfers.
He should be in that rocket to be fired up into space.... has he even played one game without a MAJOR mistake???


Yes and he has a fat arse as well


I dunno... i wasnt looking.. elaborate

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:59 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Trade options are Bower, Thornton and Warnock in my mind.


Hasn't Warnock has recently signed up for another 3 years? According to AFL rules I believe a player can't be traded the same year after being re-signed.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:53 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Has any player ever played a game without making a mistake? FMD the amount of perfection on TC is staggering.

There are mistakes ad there are howlers... Davies is of the second kind in his decision making and execution.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:23 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Senior list:
White (has his positives, but too short to play the KPD role)
Joseph (I cannot stress how much this hotheaded fool needs to be shown the door; costs us multiple goals on a weekly basis)
Davies (herpa derp derp derps in his primary role)
Kerr (simply hasn't shown enough with all the talent he has to offer)

Rookie list:
Heyne (has not improved as much as hoped; squandered 2nd chance)


Elevations:
Tuohy (no brainer)
Curnow (a lot to work with and needs more time in an AFL environment to round out his game)

That still leaves another senior list deletion to allow for three draft choices. Russell, Ellard, Thornton and McLean would all rate a mention in most circles, but Russell and Ellard are streets ahead for that position in my mind.

I should also note that to the best of my knowledge, Casboult, Carter and Curnow are on their final year of rookie eligibility, though one of Carter and Curnow can assume the third-year rookie slot. I think Carter is a real chance because we will need smaller players with pace and defensive application, and we can't entirely rely on new names to provide this in the absence of Joseph, Davies and potentially Russell and/or Ellard.

Casboult is putting his hand up to stay on and get elevation to the senior list, but his kicking really is quite horrible and would want to see rapid progress to cement that. Additionally, we'd be carrying him as our 6th tall forward option into the next season. O'Keeffe is another who apparently has almost put himself back into 50/50 range, but has an abhorrent record with injuries.

Trade options are Bower, Thornton and Warnock in my mind. Would rather reinvest in a new option as that legitimate 203+ cm ruckman who wins on reach alone than stick with a bloke who averages 10 games a season due to injury and form, and doesn't put his body in enough because it's made of chalk. Bower & Thornton are talented, but it's probably at the point now where one has to make way for the sake of list balance, and turnover through the tall stocks at both ends. Sell on one of them for a good price and reinvest it in the draft.

Here is one for you Jim. Probably doesn't belong in this thread but in my view it is a little telling.

Warnock was on official duties on Sunday, outside with Tex signing fan stuff.

Now I would have thought he would have then moved to the rooms to support the boys and be a presence. Saw him walking out of Etihad with about 20 mins to play in the last term.

Now..... I know people have their own things to do but FMD I would expect Warnock to stay around the boys and be a support for the side. Just didnt look good him strolling out in a relaxed manner chatting on his mobile as he got out of the place.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:35 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
Has any player ever played a game without making a mistake? FMD the amount of perfection on TC is staggering.

There are mistakes ad there are howlers... Davies is of the second kind in his decision making and execution.


He has played 15 games of AFL footy.

Unbelievably high standards set by the keyboard warriors on TC once again.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:43 am 
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Bell has played 2 games. Shown a lot more. 15 games is more than enough to make a decision based on our list going forward. Why hold a spot for a guy in a position we are stacked in?

McInnes, Laidler, Jamison, Tuohy, Watson, AJ, Yarran, Gibbs, White, Duigan and even Waite are all streets ahead of him as far as what they offer out of the back line.

If it's a choice between White or Davies, I'd choose White. Others have played far far less, and been judged. Cut our losses, move on.

The whole line on davies might make an inside mid, are just about mile high dreams at this stage.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:52 am 
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Braithy wrote:
Bell has played 2 games. Shown a lot more. 15 games is more than enough to make a decision based on our list going forward. Why hold a spot for a guy in a position we are stacked in?

McInnes, Laidler, Jamison, Tuohy, Watson, AJ, Yarran, Gibbs, White, Duigan and even Waite are all streets ahead of him as far as what they offer out of the back line.

If it's a choice between White or Davies, I'd choose White. Others have played far far less, and been judged. Cut our losses, move on.

The whole line on davies might make an inside mid, are just about mile high dreams at this stage.


FMD and judged by whom? Synners? Pysch? Yourself?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:41 pm 
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Juanita, Davies cant play cos he read this site and he cant handle the pressure . :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Has any player ever played a game without making a mistake? FMD the amount of perfection on TC is staggering.



You can cover the mistakes in a win but in a loss every mistake is put under the microscope.

We as members of this club demand that the mistakes are kept to a minimum to ensure success is achieved.


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Roy wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
Has any player ever played a game without making a mistake? FMD the amount of perfection on TC is staggering.



You can cover the mistakes in a win but in a loss every mistake is put under the microscope.

We as members of this club demand that the mistakes are kept to a minimum to ensure success is achieved.


Hilarious


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Synbad wrote:
Juanita, Davies cant play cos he read this site and he cant handle the pressure . :lol:


Do you honestly think that after 15 games he should be banished from list?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:32 pm 
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Saw him walking out of Etihad with about 20 mins to play in the last term.

Now..... I know people have their own things to do but FMD I would expect Warnock to stay around the boys and be a support for the side. Just didnt look good him strolling out in a relaxed manner chatting on his mobile as he got out of the place.



Probably just ducking out for a quick fag :lol:

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Juanita Jones wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Juanita, Davies cant play cos he read this site and he cant handle the pressure . :lol:


Do you honestly think that after 15 games he should be banished from list?


Sometimes you have to make some tough calls. You can drag it out for another couple of years and give him another 20 games, but I can't see what the point is. I don't think he adds much to the team or has any big upside.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:45 pm 
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I can imagine if Davies gets dumped and turns up somewhere like the bulldogs or GWS we would have a stack posters saying how bad our list management is like they did this year with Austin and Setanta and others

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