Now that's offensive toward Moe, Larry and Curly.

If you just allow js.craponli to post without responding, you'll eventually snuff the toxin out. Don't worry, he (or she) can cope with it. It's the way he (or she) has probably lived their life anyway. After all, it's a hedge hog fondue half back flanker......sorry I meant a hedge fund half back flanker (rhyming slang intended)

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

If he wanted to go back to cricket, he wouldn't have many obstacles. You could argue that his report he wrote regarding results from the heat camp in Qatar was more suited to cricket/field hockey rather than Australian Rules Football. Cricket Australia like his work.

So the players who have no leadership on the field have it inside the club affairs ????

Scarp .. and you reckon our club is well run.....

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I think I have already said there are many combined issues that need to be sorted out...but I am not sure if they are plenty little issues that can be fixed or not. This Carlton group will not make a decision without a long process, that much I can tell you. Whether thats a good or bad thing, it has to be good. Better decision are made that way and goes through the correct channels.

I find it funny that you think our recruiters are ordinary and can't find a forward, yet you mentioned Kennedy in your post. Truth is we have had to address the midfield, backline and ruck since Hughes took over. Yet the club wouldn't have been in the finals for fouryears if our recruiting and development was abysmal. The club wasn't even supposed to be a finals chance after we sacked Fevola. Yet now we expect and want a flag under Ratten. Your argument doesn't add up.

people should know whats going on at the club

ten weeks means if u were inside youd know what you have to do... a long process just makes it muddier in my opinion.

Li ke

a) can he coach opinion
b) they would know what the players are thinking
c)the harm if he stays to our players and supporters... yes or no
d) pay him out immediately funds
d) replacement

You dont need a long drawn out process.

The fact its come to this means a vote of no confidence in the first place....

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Waiting till seasons end for a review is too late. Either do it now and start planning for 2013. Tell ratts the job is yours or cut your losses and plan for 2013. Worst outcome is too keep playing no future players because you have to make finals. Making finals is for losers - winning them is what counts. We have no hope of winning a gf, so start making the calls NOW for nxt year.

As an aside, a caller on radio made an interesting comment that clarkson at the hawks when he first arrived at the club spoke to the older former players and basically told them they were doing more harm than good and to but out. Either believe me or not but dont interfere.

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'‘He had an enormous capacity to pump himself up and get the best out of himself when it mattered. He had a fire in his belly – a passion for the contest like few other players’' -- D Parkin in reference to the dominator

scratch that... just say won on e elimination final in five years with 3 number 1 picks and the best player in the comp.and a couple of seasons with Pagan.... but hughes recruiting since Russells draft.

thats 7 years for 1 elim final.

Amazinggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!

WOW!!!

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People know exactly whats going at the club - but the unwashed have blinkers on.

Lacking a key forward isn't responsible for us getting smashed in the midfield. Our clearances are poor. Our uncontested possessions and marks have gone through the floor.
Many players are playing with zero confidence. Our skills have fallen away, our defensive kick outs have turned to shit and we are playing with little intensity.
Something is severely wrong and blaming it on the loss of an inconsistent forward or a couple of untried VFL battlers is pure deflection.

There are issues that won't go away by playing a couple of very average talls.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

review is already well underway

ratts will be gone soon

caretaker coach will see out the year - probably richardson

players will be sent off for surgery

new coach will be appointed before the draft

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

its awful that round three we were flying, round 12 and we want to neck ourselves.
guys from work who support other teams always tell me how overrated waite is, my come back is the bloke is a gun, but when was the last time waite played 15/20 good games in a row.
we do need a key forward [or two]and, i don't think rowe, casboult and mitchell are going to be the answer any time soon.
we must hunt someone like robbie tarrant/charlie dixon/ben griffiths. offer 3/4 years and more coin, just use mcleans money.
maybe a few more mids would help as well.
so many guys are down on confidence.
so many guys are playing with injuries.
after the week end we will be 13 or 14th. tigers play melbourne and freo plays bulldogs.
should ratten be sacked if we lose to north the following week?
i am a shattered man at the moment, don't want to go to work anymore.
interesting time come seasons end.

I agree with you BV. But having a structure in place does help the ball carrier play with more confidence, this disjointed hap hazard style of play is mainly borne of the fact that we are down significantly in our pressure acts in forward 50, clearance work what you suggested. SOme of it is in between the ears, some of it structural and some of it is the mis management of fitness & injuries.

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Don't tease us

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Might have to tell my son we'll have to cancel our trip to the Carl v Rich game. What a waste of time and money that is going to be.

This was planned in January with such high hopes for our year. Completely heartbreaking that our year has turned into the year from hell.

Gutted.

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no direct sauce

just putting 2 + 2 + 2 together and getting 6

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

im glad my trip east was round 3

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

That's very selfish of you grro

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