Improving magnificently well. We do need a GF appearance ASAP to get that big push... Question though, is Carlton in a position to skyrocket? No doubt in my mind we have the list to play in a grand final. Weight for weight and everything is equal we can beat anyone - no doubt.

Baby steps we're getting there....we need more time dammit!

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Thats exactly what I am telling you.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/portals ... report.pdf

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I decided to read both ours and Collingwood's Annual reports from 2009-2011. We have slowly climbed in revenue over that peroid while Collingwood had a HUGE jump in revenue between the 2009 and 2010 reports while from 2010 to the 2011 reports they have stagnated but that's only over 1 year. You'd obviously have to take it over a longer period than that.

Reading our annual report does paint a pretty average picture for us. Yes we have improved a little but to me personally i feel it's just not good enough to be average, like Synbad has been going on and on about. We are Carlton and SHOULD be number 1. Not number 2 or number 3 or number 8 or whatever! Maybe if we do improve on the field that it might have a massive effect on our revenue but i really do feel we need someone with more experience in running a company like Doc Sherrin mentioned, like say Harold Mitchell. He's obviously been very successful in anything he has been involved in and he is a Carlton supporter to boot!

Nothing against Kernahan or anything. He is a reluctant president after all!

Don't worry about Collingwood they came and gone three GF and one premiership to show for it. Such a terrific template to follow... Oh did I mention their assets fell 8% and their expenditure is out of control?

What sort of debt do they have?

Still streets ahead of where we find ourselves.

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Ah, at last we agree. Yes, that's what we've been saying. In fact, not quite yet, but as soon as Pratts and Mathieson say "no more", it WILL happen.

But, it's good to see you finally listen to reason. Yes, Carlton's revenue growth is about to come to a grinding halt.

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2:1 standard. Losing ~8 % of assets & no revenue growth suggests their expenditure is out of control. They will feel pain with a slight pull back in memberships.

I am sure on going financial crisis did wonders for many asset values, especially property in Melbourne

The benchmarks in terms of on field success in the last few years are Geelong, Collingwood, Hawthorn and St Kilda, West Coast (exc 2010) and Sydney are usually there abouts.

When we start beating these clubs on a regular basis we can say we are successful.

I am hoping that we are doing a West Coast bottoming in 2010 due to injury and then its likely to be two top 4 finishes.

But West Coast has premiership winning players and coach. We have Judd.

Nope
Carlton 10% growth
Collingwood 0% growth

Didn't know Ratts was an emrgency in 1995?

So let's change tact slightly. Here's how the Boards sub-committee's works.

Football - Kernahan, Gleeson, Harrison, Newton

Finance - Newton, Fried, Harrison, LoGiudice

Governence & HR - Lee, Clarke, Moulton, Suss

Marketing & Membership - Germinder, Fried, Gleeson, LoGuidice, Pratt

Remuneration - Kernahan, Clarke, Lee, Newton

Geelong don't have a football sub-committee nor a marketing & membership committee at board level. See what they've done? Removed operations from the board. How'd you like to be a senior manager in marketing taking direction from Adrian Gleeson? They should only be reporting to the CEO. I'm fine with the board supporting, reviewing and monitoring the operational performances, but I'm of the opinion that these sub-committee's are unnecessary and place unnecessary burden on the CEO and his staff. Sticks and Swann should be driving these changes. Geelong also made Brian Cook a director. Such a smart move.

It is disappointing we didnt hit 50k members this year. Total failure by the marketing department- but I see no weakness in marketing strategies - I am not a marketing guy anyway. I support the club to make the GF this year or next and hit 60-65k members. Home finals, preliminaries, GF etc all add up to the membership growth pool. Need to play in a GF as soon as possible - supporting the club to make it this year. Need to pull finger out though - but can be done.

He's better than Melvey...

Or Hot Cox...

Is Ratts playing? I thought he was coaching?

So the only thing we're ahead of Collingwood in is growth yet by every other measurable figure they're well ahead?

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Well they would be disappointed and largely incompetent if their memebership numbers were not in front of ours after three grand final appearances and we have 2 wooden spoons in that same period.

Page eight says they doubled the revenue that comes from Collingwood members.

Page nine then.