They reckon over at BF (crappy I know) that Simon good win to us, announced tomorrow. Is this true or even good?

It's good for his creditors

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Is he worth a punt?

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You bet he is!

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Getting back to Wayne Brittain - I too would quite like to see him back. Great tactician. Though please don't let him anywhere near trade week - our 2001 off season was the worst in memory.

It bemuses me what some posters expect from a coach on match day. IMHO, a coaches role on match day is to keep the message simple. He needs to determine what are the few most important focus points on the day and convey those points as succinctly and simple as possible to ensure the message is understood by as many players as possible. Studies clearly show that the more complex and numerous the instructions, the more likelihood of players "zoning out"

All the hard work is done well before the team runs out. If you want to judge Teague as a coach. Go and watch him hold a pre-season. Go and watch him run training sessions and see how he structures our sessions. See if he develops game sense knowledge in players by quality drills and demonstrations. IMO, good teams usually have quality players that make good decisions at the appropriate time. The role of good coaches is to foster and improve that knowledge. You wont see that happening at 1/4 time on Sunday afternoon.

Personally, I think he is quite good. He doesn't waste his time ranting and raving but delivers instructions in a simple and thoughtful manner. The players seem to understand their role and just as importantly, they have the ability to make good decisions during the game. That ability is often the result of good coaching. Dont look for a coach that tells the players what to do. Look for players that have developed the ability to make those decisions themselves.

That will tell you whether they are well coached.

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Agreed.

How often do we hear how good a coach Brad Gotch is in the VFL. But when it comes to finals time his players fail to execute the successful brand of footy they've played all year and get done. Who's fault is that? Players or Coaches? Because he's done it at different clubs in successive years.

Coaching isn't a rev up at 3/4 time anymore. It's not even the classic full-back to the forward line master-stroke of yore. It's a year-long process of education and establishing a style and a structure in which to execute skills.

The fact that Teague can get a team to be successful with enforced changes due to Senior call-ups or omissions speaks to the Coaching team's ability to clearly communicate the structures and systems the team has in place.

And really, The Bullants success is mostly based on the VFL players having good years. As we know in the seniors, it doesn't matter if you have a half-dozen game-breakers, if the rest of the team isn't up to scratch you'll lose. So, Woods, Saad, Neaves, Thomas, Iaccobucci, S. Austin etc. have as much to do with their success than our blokes. And in that instance who do you credit?
Some posters would run a mile before giving Teague any.

So if the team gets rolled by North Ballarat who are virtually standalone VFL (please don't rabbit on about a North Melbourne alliance when there is barely a resemblance of one) what sort of success will you all lavish upon David Teague? Will I hear anyone advocating Gerald Fitzgerald as a potential assistant coaching candidate?

I am interested in how you have come to the conclusion that North Ballarat are virtually a stand alone team...

I'm a big fan of Teague, I think he has done a wonderful job and got the most out of his playing list, that's more than what most other coaches can say.

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Koperek.

The Casey game needed a little bit more than "stay the course and don't get flustered if they sneak a couple of goals." To suggest that I and others are automatically inferring that means swinging a personnel change or giving them a rocket is ludicrous.


The structures and tactics employed are quite simply elementary, even for VFL level. Look at Casey and Williamstown, then look back at us. Yes we won both matches, but the energy we expend in doing so was excruciating. We may not be as slick or as skilled if you look at each of those teams line-by-line, but we have enough about us to play a vastly more efficient and intelligent form of football. This is further reflected at senior level with Carlton.


Iaccobucci has been performing for Preston longer than Teague has been around in the coaching role. The rest of those names have been bouncing in and out of the team all year. Look what's happened when they're afforded a bit of continuity.

Personally, I've already given Teague some credit, but it's clear to me he has invested what seems like 5 minutes on tactics and the rest of the season on pep talks. That's ultimately bad for Preston, and it's worse still for Carlton.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Agree.

But IMO, decision making has been a major negative in our general play for a long while now.

It's a harsh footy term, but IMO we have quite a few 'dumb' players at the moment, so is that a reflection? AFAIC, it is.

Draft Record under Britts...

2000 National Draft
Pick 4 : Luke Livingston, Bendigo U18, VCFL
Pick 11 : Trent Sporn, North Adelaide, SANFL
Pick 15 : Simon Wiggins, Tasmania U18, Tas
Pick 31 : Blake Campbell, Murray U18, VCFL
Pick 46 : Sean O'Keeffe, Murray U18, VCFL
Pick 61 : Callan Beasy, Bendigo U18, VCFL

2001 National Draft
Pick 39 : Justin Davies, Murray U18, VCFL
Pick 46 : Jarrad Waite, Murray U18, VCFL - (Father/Son selection)
Pick 75 : Sam Cranage, Carlton, AFL
Pick 84 : Not utilised

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Yes our decision making has been poor but it's improving enormously over the past year or two.
The players are now recieving far more game sense training than in previous years. That's what improves the decision making of players. Repetition training in game based situations without simply asking players to run from cone A to cone B. Players need to train in pressured situations with numerous options available to them. Once they understand what is the beneficial option in game based situations and make appropriate decision more often than not, they become quality AFL players.

Our list spent too many years being "dumbed down" by archaic training methods that expected players to react in a specified manner instead of making the appropriate decision themselves. In fact, I suspect several of our players have been permanently disadvantaged and will have shorter careers as a result. That's not due to David Teague.
I'm not saying Teague would make a good AFL coach but I suspect some posters are making uninformed judgements and unfairly dismissing him.

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I'm not sure I can agree with what I've highlighted BV but I understand what you're saying and the philosophy behind it which is no doubt the correct way to 'teach'.
I am a longtime reader of TC and have enjoyed reading your training observations from back in the dark years of 'archaic training'. It's a shame you can't pass on current day 'meaningful' training observations.

North Melbourne have a partial affiliation with the Roosters and Werribee. There was a strong push by Gerald FitzGerald to recruit boys who were keen to live and work in Ballarat, and that's who's played the majority of the year. I think you'd find most of the established North Melbourne boys when coming back through the Reserves would play with Werribee. Gerald FitzGerald is not a fan of the Kangaroo affiliation, but makes it work.

This week - the Roosters will field David Hale, Leigh Harding, Corey Jones and Brayden Norris from the Kangaroos senior list and a couple of North rookies. Meanwhile Bullants will have Brad Fisher, Johnson, Bret Thornton, Sam Jacobs, Joe Anderson, Steven Browne, Mark Austin, Rohan Kerr, and rookies David Ellard, Zach Tuohy, Joe Dare and Levi Casboult.

Pressure on David Teague? Shit...if you can't win with that lineup - you should go and coach in the bush.

The number on the back of his jumper isn't the draft pick we used to get him. If it was he'd be wearing 67.

C'mon Doc, even you wouldn't truly believe simplistic nonsense like that. Have a look at the Geelong and Collingwood VFL teams and who was available to them but I dont see them playing this Sunday.

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I'm fortunate enough not to have the Bullant blinkers on. I'll be an interested onlooker on Sunday arvo, but I won't be cheering for the Bullants.

Ah, so it's sour grapes?






(Where are the Seagulls playing this weekend?)

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