For the love of God, Allah, your mum, and whoever bloody else

CAN OUR PLAYERS PLEASE LEARN TO TAKE A BLOODY CONTESTED MARK IN THE OFF SEASON

MVP poll now open too...

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Great effort by the boys today but from next year there won't be any excuses to lose games that are ours for the taking.

Judd single-handedly kept us in the game and played his best game for the club, imo.

Our ruck stocks over the next couple of years will be the best in the AFL, unless we do something stupid and trade them.

Ratten had a good game but the Gibbs/Goodes matchup was going to be the one that either won or lost us the game. In the end it lost us the game, but who could've done a better job on him? Also the 2 dropping the ball non-decisions against him killed us.

The positives outweighed the negatives today and that's without Kreuzer, Lucas and White who are all very crucial to our setup. White and Lucas playing would've eased the pressure off Jamison (who I thought played well) and Bower (fair effort in the second half).

You'd rather lose a close one with effort and endeavour than play like the bulldogs or the hawks, atleast we can see our deficiencies and work to rectify them over the pre-season.


Keep your head up boys!!

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I wrote them down as they happened. Couldn't believe what I was seeing a few times.
But at least they came to play and we can't ask more than that.

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Just watching my recording of the game now. @#$%&! the umpiring in that first quarter was a complete shambles. The only thing missing from that interchange cock up was the Benny Hill music.

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It was a good weekend to be in Sydney again.I liked ANZ as a venue to watch footy.The facilites were great and the train system to and from the ground was efficient.

The umpires in the first term were woeful. The Goodes incident of "dropping" the ball that lead to a goal and the "high" tackle when the Swans player ducked his head into the defender and milked a free that lead to a goal got the veins in the neck working very early on.

Early on I thought Walker upfront was a good move. I think with his 3 goals the move was a win for Ratten on the day. Having said that, his goal kicking stinks.
I also enjoyed 206 taking his opportunities in front of goal and kicking truly. It reminded me of Harry Madden.We need to see more of it in 2011 now that he seems to have found some form and confidence.

JR was outstanding in defence.If he didn’t turn the ball over so often by foot he would be an elite player. In the space of a few minutes in the last term he kicked the ball out on the full when he had plenty of time, and than a few minutes later kicked to an opponent on the other wing. Crucial errors.
I thought Jamo got better in the second half and did well. Bower looks like a player who has has missed a lot of football and is down a little on confidence. I still have doubts over his decision making, ditto Robbo.I like the look of Ellard.

I didn’t see enough of Gibbs. He needs to impose himself much more and demand with his performances to be played in the middle. For a guy who has been in the system now for a few years I wouldn’t mind seeing some more muscle definition on him.

Overall I came away very pleased with our endeavour and with a feeling that we are only really one or two players away from really becoming a top 4 team in 2011.I think the mc has plenty to work with and we have plenty of scope for improvement.Frustrated nevertheless.

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie....dear oh dear....what to do, what to do? And to think, we had Chris Yarran sitting in the stands watching it all.

Just got home from Sydney....one word, shattered

We deserved more and are a better side, but it wasnt to be.....

Firstly well done to Ratts I thought he held his own against Roos today. Walker to the forward line was a winner.

Judd's third quarter was one of the best ever. He'll be gutted he missed those goals, as he should be. If you want to be thought of as the best in the comp he's gotta kick em. He still our best however.

Hendo > Fev. Had a bad one today but the time will come when he'll take them and watch us soar then..

Had's was great, to all you nay sayers, get stuffed. One of the toughest out there. That bump he copped would have been the end of most others.

Warnock's grabs up forward were great and importantly can actully kick the goal.

Waite would have been BOG had he put them through.

Eddie, I love ya but you were shithouse.. You're going to be very quickly replaced by your two mates.

Sauce, better than I thought. Well done son, you'll remain a Blue.

Jamo and Bower, would be great if they were our second and third best defenders, sadly they are our one and two. Just to temper that they have both only played about 55 games so lets not throw out the baby with the bath water.

Great year from Jeffrey will be a star.

Murph very good, and getting tougher.

Gibbs, I dont know, I can't say much because he played the role he was given, 2011 could be the unleash Gibbs campaign!

Gutted that we should have won but I know we'll be even better next year and improvment is all I ask for.

You can hold your heads up Carlton but also remember Carlton expects success.

Just as a footnote would we consider Tarrant? He's on the way back to Melbourne....

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And another major point I wanted to make which I made in the previous thread and that is that the Gibbs v Goodes match up is possibly the dumbest bit of coaching I've ever come across. Just because Gibbs beat Goodes once (when Goodes was on one leg) Ratts continues to play Gibbs on him even though Goodes has beaten him every single time. Here we have one of our best players doing as tagging job and guess what? It didn't work anyway, the Swans got 24 touches out of their bloke and we get 14 worthless touches out of Bryce deep inside our defensive 50 where they didn't count. Stupid stupid dumb coaching, something that even Leigh Matthews pointed out in the third quarter. He wondered why you'd persist with such a match up when Gibbs clearly wasn't stopping Goodes anyway. Roos must've been laughing all the way to the bank. Give us Bryce on the ball in the last term playing his natural attacking game and we win IMO.

Jamo was huge on White.

Carrazzo was huge in the third term was it 14 touches in the quarter where we kicked 5 goals to zip? So so much more than just a tagger. It would have been a bitter sweet third quarter comeback for a few on here. Razz

Jordan Russell's first ten minutes cost us dearly, the dropped mark and then the fact he worried more about O'Keefe in the marking contest cost us two goals early in the game and put us on the back foot for much of it. His next three and a half quarters were almost BOG, he held the whole defence together and continuously beat his man (O'Keefe) in the air and on the ground to repel most attacks.

Kade Simpson had a second quarter (and game) to forget but three crucial errors cost us dearly in the second term. Two very gettable shots at goal he missed when we were only two goals down and THEN his dropped regulation chest mark on the wing gave up a goal to the Swans. Terrible football from a bloke that really had to do better to overcome the Kirk tag. Lost us all momentum in the second quarter.

Jarrad Waite's two misses late in the third and early in the fourth cost us dearly as well, you just knew the Swans were going to make us pay for them. Waite really needed to finish our work up the ground, his two shots were far more regulation that Judds.

Betts, another nothing game from Eddie, had zero impact. Would have much preferred Chris Yarran.

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If Waite kicks his two EASY shots at goal we win, simple as that. I'd say his misses were a major reason that we lost.

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The game summed up our season. Some brilliant footy coupled with lapses of concentration, some magic indivivual efforts coupled with some dumbass decision making. Competative and able to go with the best but not yet quite good enough.

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L.M 35-06

Paul Roos walks away with a 12 win 1 loss record against Carlton.
Until we can start beating these teams that have the wood over us were never going to go far into September.

Essendon*, St Kilda, Freo, Adelaide and Sydney, beating them once over the past couple of years doesn't do it and the Hawks is another who we haven't manage to beat for 4-5 years now.

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I'm gutted - completely and utterly gutted.

Hendo is a nice player but needs to work hard over the pre season.

Betts done some nice things but has been out of form for weeks.

That loss hurt.

Last season losing to Brisbane really hurt. But doing it 2 years in a row now is really going to sting the playing group.

The fans were devastated....The players were too.

Seeing the boys at Sydney and Melbourne airport they were totally gutted. There had been a few tears and the looks on their faces said a lot. This will stay in the memories for a while.

Now the facts:

Hendo drops a few but this kid is a gem. He is a smart footballer, he nearly always finds himself in the right positions and he has a great head on his 20 year old shoulders. Will be a real player for us. Saw him at Melb airport after game....the kid was absolutely gutted.

Our defence did well in 2nd half but we still lack a big bodied mature defender to help out the kids and some great run and dash. Unlike a few others, I really love Waitey down back. He is mature, smart, uses his body well, can run and use the ball. Much prefer him down back.

Judd = SUPERSTAR

Why do so many people cringe at the sight of Gibbs in defence. He will become our version of Hodgey...

We need another quality mid.

We are very close......keep the faith guys!

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Major reason?, well lets just say a contributing factor. In 4 quarters of football theres so many reasons sides win or lose .


Unless you've built a machine that can work out the outcome of all scenarios, your just speculating.

Heres an example.

a) Waite kicks the first of the so called easy goals, the ball goes back to the centre to be bounced and the Swans get a quick clearance, the umps award another dubious free kick and the Swans kick a goal.
Net result, no change in the score difference, just some clock time chewed up.


All you can say with certainty is that , on balance, you would expect Waite to kick the.


The Swans missed some sitters as well, did that keep us in the game?????

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I hope Essendon* folds.

A few too many getting carried away with that IMO. It's White FFS, he's played one good game....EVER.....against us...so everyone seems to think he's a world beater. Jamo played well, but he wasn't playing on Riewoldt.

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G'day

My first Blues match since the " Gibbs Win" loss to the Bombers and my first in Sydney since round 22 2006, when Swans fans where cheering for the Blues when we got below a hundred points behind and some fool was wearing golden boots for winning the Coleman.

So my first point is that we have improved greatly and you cannot fault the effort put in by most of the players. Also Sydney where the better team as the played the better football for 3/4 of the game, more poised under pressure giving them a much better disposal efficiency .

Good points
Judd is just amazing, great hip and shoulder in last term
Carrazzo and Russell!
General guts and determination of team.
Potential for improvement for some players

Bad points
Scotlands disposal by foot is shocking, his kicking in the warm up was terrible never mind during the match. I can't believe Judd put up with it in the warm up
Armfield, Robinson, Simpson, Ellard, Garlett, Walker, Waite also all had poor disposal efficiency, some of these players are developing others questions need to be asked.
Betts was just rubbish.
Awful start to the game.
Not playing the percentages enough (ie bouncing the ball 5m from Swans goal)
Drive back to Canberra after the loss.
The Tannoy! Bloody hell so much music and so many adverts are we playing AFL or NBA?


Umpiring
Was shocking, though in the end terrible decisions were paid to both teams.
Also "the tackle" on Judd looking at 4-5 weeks if this happened in NRL or Union. AFL not even a free kick. Will this be reported on Video?

Did anyone else think that the Blues players ended up on the ground too much, allowing the Sydney players who retained their feet to have an extra man in the contest. Suicidal desperation perhaps?

Still BEST game of footy I have attended and first Carlton final!

C'arn the Blues in 2011

Cheers

I have to agree BM - what it shows (and we all know it) is that we are a few players short in terms of depth and a season or so short in terms of experience... and it tight matches where decision making becomes critical... this seems to show us where we stand right now.

I am absolutely shattered as we controlled key periods of yesterdays game without hitting the scoreboard but really proud the way we put the foot to the floor and won a lot of contested ball and started playing the game on our terms in the third quarter.

Now is not the time for recriminations.... player X is no good etc....he cost us the game..... its about the team and the 22 who played yesterday - and how we functioned across the whole game. I would say that the first 10 minutes of the game were more crucial to the final result than the one or 2 missed goals later on.

We are all feeling SH&T today but we are on the right track and the last 7 year dark period will soon be a distant memory.