cons: without Fev kicking a bag we are still rubbish
Carlton lost the game more than Adelaide won it.

These 2 statements of yours are antithetical to each other.

Fev played a shocker, and we still got close to a quality side.

So, which is it? We're rubbish without Fev, or we should have won, even though Fev didn't feature in the match?

Jammo and Bower both impressed me (especially the former). They are still green obviously, but you can see they know what they are doing and will continue to improve.

Unlike Luke Livingston.

Carlton should be beating teams like the Crows now.

But with duds like Russell kicking into the man on the mark from a set shot barely 30m out what do you expect.

I know u don't actually see many games. You live vicariously through this website while some of us actually attend the games. We lost by 5 goals and Fev kicked 1. Fev shouldn't need to kick 8 every week for us to win. But with duds like Russell kicking into the man on the mark from a set shot barely 30m out what do you expect.

McLeod had 8 more disposals, 5 less critical errors, and 1 more goal...i think he had more impact on the game tbh

Wow.......bagging Bower. May not be the best kick in the world, but he's been great for us this year, and getting better all the time. Browne FFS !!! was his first game and he did well, and will be a 10 year player for us

Incedently you keep failing to mention 8 more tackles...oh yeah sorry that was in JR's favour!
Mcleod had 33 disposals last week and IMO this week was well held by an improving player.
FFS some people on this site need to get off JR's back. He was easily in our best players yesterday but still cant get a positive word from some people! I think we all acknowledge improvement was required. You got it, now pay some credit where it is due. Yesterday he earned a spot for next week. I just hope he keeps improving.

sorry if i've offended or annoyed anybody in this forum with my views/opinion on russell.. i'll try keep my opinions to myself next time

Mate, your just stating the bare facts of a player who's been given numerous opportunities but has failed to deliver anything of significance in his 34 games at our club...

Grigg made a couple of mistakes - but guess what, he is a young player and he's going to make mistakes. Why do people keep expecting players with less than 30-50 games experience to come in and consistently make right decisions?

Bower is gradually getting better with experience. He made countless errors last year and a few games earlier this year but you can see he is getting better and not making as many mistakes. Stop expecting the world from young, inexperienced players.

The same people bagging Russell would be complaining that he wasn't getting an extended run in the seniors. He is getting that opportunity and slowly he is improving.

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