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You've gotta laugh... :lol:

There was a passage of play described on 3AW a few minutes back that went something like this (can't remember the order of the players but it doesn't really matter)...

Thornton gets it across to Sporn, on to Camporeale who gets it to Koutafides. Koutafides gets it across to Simpson who passes to Scotland who marks...




...on the half back flank... :lol:

Glad we play a direct long-kicking game... :lol:


Typical shithouse commentary...what the hell does "gets it to" mean? handpass? kick? punch? tap?

Radio commentary is fast becoming redundant...no wonder I haven't listened to a radio call for about five years.


Tv commentary is a good deal worse.

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At least trueblueblad got the quaddie! :lol: :lol:


haha that i did. It would ease the pain, but I still have to split it 4 ways with the syndicate we have, but its our first win in a while.

Would take a Blues win over that though :(

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Richmond were awesome today.

I am not sure, but I think wallace has been very closely looking at the Brisbane game plan.

So many Richmond player were prepared to run from the the defensive to the attacking side of the contest awaiting the contested ball to be won.

Not sure if I was seeing things but it looked very much like the way Brisbane plays out there today.

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yeah, as bad as we were, Richmond never let us get into the game.

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speaking of brisbane

with our banner today you could have sworn we were playing brisbane

"kick the winning score"
"stop the TIGERS roar" ?????

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"Go lions , Brisbane Lions we'll kick the winning score - you'll hear the mighty roar"

bad day right from the get go

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Richmond were awesome today.

I am not sure, but I think wallace has been very closely looking at the Brisbane game plan.

So many Richmond player were prepared to run from the the defensive to the attacking side of the contest awaiting the contested ball to be won.

Not sure if I was seeing things but it looked very much like the way Brisbane plays out there today.


We looked totally unprepared for their numbers running forward and at the ball. We never really adjusted to it. Not sure if we didn't do our homework or whether it just ckicked today for Richmond. Given they've won 4 games you'd think neither scenario is possible.

I know the sting was out of the game in the second half, but at least we held our own on the scoreboard and didn't lose by more than 100 points.

Simmo made his mark today, looked a little slow earlier, but got plenty of it in the second half, when the sting was out of the game, but he looked good. Despite what someone suggested earlier i don't think we'll be de-listing him based on today's game.

Waite continued his form today, took a lot of marks and provided a target, was hard at the ball.

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I haven't seen the game, and probably WON'T now I know the result.

Who didn't do their job?

Stevens and Campo heaps of possies - what did they do to them?

How did Coughlan get 38 possies? How did Krakouer get 5 goals?

What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


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What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


A good backhand to the jaw

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Ponkstar wrote:
I haven't seen the game, and probably WON'T now I know the result.

Who didn't do their job?

Stevens and Campo heaps of possies - what did they do to them?

How did Coughlan get 38 possies? How did Krakouer get 5 goals?

What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


That is where Richmond were so good.

Stevens had 30 touches, Campo 32 and Kouta 24, normally if that happens we win, but the game was so free flowing and open that their touches made little difference compared to the great team/sharing play of Richmond.

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Ponkstar wrote:
I haven't seen the game, and probably WON'T now I know the result.

Who didn't do their job?

Stevens and Campo heaps of possies - what did they do to them?

How did Coughlan get 38 possies? How did Krakouer get 5 goals?

What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


Stevens,Campo and Scotland had plenty of possessions,however many were in the back half.Johnson had a shocker..All 4 of our main on-ballers were very poor defensively and too often allowed their direct opponents to run forward unopposed..e.g Campbells 2 goals in the last quarter.

Simpson showed plenty.At least he can kick!

The real issue for us is a compete inability to take a contested ONE grab mark!.It really is our archiles heel!


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How did Krakouer get 5 goals?


I don't recall being able to identify Krakouers opponent all day - seemed to be the Tigers 19th man. Gees we missed Carrots.

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I thought at times today that Kouta, Johnno and Stevens got in each other's way at bounce downs, effectively holding the ball to each other and then when it spilt free Richmond had all their players open and ready to run forward.

I wonder what Fev was thinking at half-time? I reckon the suspension was a crock and he should have got off, but he's got to be out there to provide a target. Whitnall is a far better player with someone else to take the pressure off him and provide another target, bring the ball to ground where his smarts can be an asset.

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Maybe ---- Just maybe though................................

Richmond are good !??!!? :shock: :shock: :shock:

They thrashed Freo a few weeks ago - who then turned around and beat Melbourne at the G

ITs a strange season

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7dominator wrote:
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I haven't seen the game, and probably WON'T now I know the result.

Who didn't do their job?

Stevens and Campo heaps of possies - what did they do to them?

How did Coughlan get 38 possies? How did Krakouer get 5 goals?

What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


Stevens,Campo and Scotland had plenty of possessions,however many were in the back half.Johnson had a shocker..All 4 of our main on-ballers were very poor defensively and too often allowed their direct opponents to run forward unopposed..e.g Campbells 2 goals in the last quarter.

Simpson showed plenty.At least he can kick!

The real issue for us is a compete inability to take a contested ONE grab mark!.It really is our archiles heel!


Well campo had 8 inside 50's (and 7 rebound 50's) more than anyone else on the ground, 23 kicks, 17 of which were effective (2nd best on the ground), 9 contested possies (3rd best on the ground). Even then knockers could not argue that campo was downhill skiing today, by getting tons of easy possessions in the backline.

Simpson was good today.

Stevens was his usual professional self.

Whitnall, Lappin, and Waite the only others that could say they may have broken even.

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We simply cannot dispose of the ball under pressure.

We have absolutely no composure under pressure.


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I dont have the figures but apparently inside 50's were even.

Hpw can you lose by 85 points and enter the F50 on a similar amount of times?

SHit disposal, shit decision making, shit defensive pressure.

This game plan we use shouldnt mean we bomb the ball mindlessly into the F50. Ever team weve played so far knows how we play and just gets a few extra players back to ckop out our attack. We play dumb footy.

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CrazyJoeFevola wrote:
I dont have the figures but apparently inside 50's were even.

Hpw can you lose by 85 points and enter the F50 on a similar amount of times?

SHit disposal, shit decision making, shit defensive pressure.

This game plan we use shouldnt mean we bomb the ball mindlessly into the F50. Ever team weve played so far knows how we play and just gets a few extra players back to ckop out our attack. We play dumb footy.


It was not just bombs.

Many of the direct passes to a player on a good lead either went over their heads or bounced at their feet. If we had been more efficient just in this one area we would probably have kicked 15 goals.

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Jarusa wrote:
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Ponkstar wrote:
I haven't seen the game, and probably WON'T now I know the result.

Who didn't do their job?

Stevens and Campo heaps of possies - what did they do to them?

How did Coughlan get 38 possies? How did Krakouer get 5 goals?

What can be done to ressurrect the boys' form?


Stevens,Campo and Scotland had plenty of possessions,however many were in the back half.Johnson had a shocker..All 4 of our main on-ballers were very poor defensively and too often allowed their direct opponents to run forward unopposed..e.g Campbells 2 goals in the last quarter.

Simpson showed plenty.At least he can kick!

The real issue for us is a compete inability to take a contested ONE grab mark!.It really is our archiles heel!


Well campo had 8 inside 50's (and 7 rebound 50's) more than anyone else on the ground, 23 kicks, 17 of which were effective (2nd best on the ground), 9 contested possies (3rd best on the ground). Even then knockers could not argue that campo was downhill skiing today, by getting tons of easy possessions in the backline.

Simpson was good today.

Stevens was his usual professional self.

Whitnall, Lappin, and Waite the only others that could say they may have broken even.


I know you love your stats Jarusa but they don't always show the true picture.I raised the issue of our on-ballers poor defensive efforts at following their opponents forward.
Tell me what your stats show about their opponents and the goals that were kicked and set up.Show me where our boys were?

Someone asked how Krakouer was able mark unopposed in the 3rd quarter?.Your stats won't tell us but i can..Johnson did'nt follow him forward.

How did Campbell kick 2 goals in the last quarter?....No stats required..Campo let him run forward unopposed!


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Pressure! Until we learn to apply it, we will continue to loose more qtrs of footy than we win.
Positives Simmo was good and Campo was our best and Setanta got to kick one.

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