Wow... you watched a few episodes of Seinfield...

Let's see... Synbad where does your expert football knowledge come from?? How many years of football did you play? I'm guessing not too many. On the other hand, I played for 16 years (until I had to stop to move over here) - Amatures, represented my districts, my state and played under age with an AFL team. I've played against and along side a number of AFL players (even shared VC of an under 19 premiership team with a current AFL captain). Hence, my knowledge comes from playing the game at a high level... and yours comes from???

As for Campo, I saw him play in every one of his games (most live). So I know first hand that he was a quality player. And I'll try to base my judgment on objective measures rather than subjective. I rate him as a great of the club in that he is definitely in our top 100 players all time. Any player that can make the Carlton Hall of Fame (an objective measure) is a great player in my mind... and Campo will get there - I'll make a bet on that. He's about the same quality or better than say, David Glascott - who is a Carlton Hall of Famer. He's a b&f winner, an All-Australian with 233 games and 200 goals to his name. Not bad, and yes he was more of an outside midfielder but thats fine with me - you need all types. He had great delivery, broke the lines and played with passion. He was very stiff not to win the Rising Star award in his first year at the club (came second from memory). He consistently was at the top of the list in our team for possession count and when he got it he used it very well. Yes he was better with Ratten and Diesel around him but then who wouldn't be - specially as an outside midfielder. As the team got worse, he was less effective, but still always one of our best players and one of the first tagged by opposition coaches.

Being a 200 gamer and a great player of the club, I chose to show him respect rather than to belittle him. Synbad if you played 200 games for the blues I'd give you the same respect.

Campo was a liability in his last few seasons and he milked his 'seniority' as much as could to the detriment of the team and the clubs finances.
As we all saw in the end Campo unashamably chased the longer contract and deserted the club when it was on its knees. Club greats don't do that.

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There's so much I could say...

Handball receivers would be nothing without their team mates who the mental courage to put their bodies on the line and GET the ball for them.
I remember Simmo standing under a hospital ball in one of the NAB games to contest a mark and got absolutely smashed. He put his body on the line for his team mates.

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There's so much I could say...

I've never seen a thread with so many sub threads.
Its like watching 3 tennis matches at once.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I've seen practically every game Campo played for Carlton and he took plenty of hits. The opposition used to target him in his early years because of his light frame but he didn't let that keep him down.
Simpson is a fantastic young player and I'll be happy if he becomes half as good as Campo was.

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Agree with The Game on Campo taking plenty of hits. Just like Bradley he was an outside player, which every team has and needs, but when it was time to put his body on the line Campo did so.

Anyone remember Olarenshaw's dirty hit on Campo at the G in the late 90's? Campo just kept getting up that day.

I disagree about hoping Simmo becomes half as good as Campo though. He showed last year he has the opportunity of being as good as Campo, with a few extra strings to his bow.

so synners trashed people who trashed Denis - now trashes Denis

trashed people who trashed Lance - now trashes Lance

hmmmm

I reckon Murphy is shit!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

More injured than FEVOLA?
That injured that he cant congratulate and celebrate with Bentick?

The bloke knows whats happenin to him.. hes worried he is gone... and he is.
The pace of the games has shown him up to even him.

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After reading 10 pages of this I have forgotten that we won last week. Five years of being on the bottom of the ladder has made us bitter and twisted.

As I pointed out, the stats show that Campo GOT plenty of the hard and contested ball over his long career. There's a lot of misconception that isn't backed up by what the stats show.

Campo would get caught with the ball more than any other Carlton player I can remember.
He had/has appaling peripheral vision.Never sees the defender approaching.That drove me crasy for years.

Late 90s, very early 2000s Campo was a class act... He did many of the team things and really contributed to the clubs success...However as the other club legends (eg Bradles, Ratten) retired; he failed to make the next step into being a leader...

Rather than playing for the team, he played for himself to try and prove that he was worthy of his massive contract...

It was pathetic the way he put the club at ransom, and it was more pathetic that he left to play for the enemy, even after the 1995 re-union...

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There seems to be so much resentment amongst so many of our supporters about how much money our players get paid. As soon as a player hits a slump, we all bag him and make reference to how much they are getting paid to be out of form. I feel like every third post is about how much we pay Lance and how shit he is.

Kouta has been copping it for years. The amount of games i have witnessed moron members abuse Kouta when he makes a mistake referring to his contract in the insult.

I was disappointed that Campo left the blues for a more financially viable offer. However i'm not gonna claim he wasn't a club great just because he may have wanted to get the maximum remuneration for his input.

We are Carlton supporters. I (a member) dont think we are qualified to make judgements on who should get paid what. And i'm not gonna bad Lance, Kouta, Fev or any other player becasue they are not performing well enough for their salary.

I will say they are not playing well enough for their TEAM.

Was it only about money?

Fair question. I dont know. I just listen to all the shit "they say". A bit like all the "i heard" type comments on this forum.

I think with the fullness of time Campo will be remembered as a premiership player who gave a great deal to Carlton from 95 to 2001.

I can remember him kicking a bag of crucial goals in a game against Essendon* in 97/98ish... he was a great person to have when goals needed scoring.

From 2001 until when he left he contributed little and didn't deserve the huge pay packet he was on. One could say he was not even half way there in returning the investment the club put in him. That 2nd side to his record will have some tarnishing effect on his overall record in my opinion.

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the game hasnt paced up since last year, he won a B&F and had an outstanding season. I just think he's very un-fit, and he actually needs an 'injury' as a scapegoat for him to be taken out of the side and re-gain fitness before he comes back and turns on a dime like the agile phenom he is.



Nic

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form is temporary

class lasts

well said!


Nic

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