Yep....so long as you change the word 'membership' to 'season ticket' then it's all good.

Remember the Geoffrey Edelesten swimmingpool and cafe.
And remember he was a man who paid to sit in the box with the coaches and formulate opinions worthy of newspaper articles on who is best suited to coach the club.
This is what the club has become and they wonder why were @ a very dark place

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It's not something we will need to worry about for the next 15 years. But I fully expect our generous benefactors to be up on the stage with the players collecting their medals, NFL style, when we next win one.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

what i wanna know is if these people are elite and all poweful... how do they enjoy our club being kicked around by all and sundry??

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That's the most embarrassing thing in world sport imo... owners in the middle holding up trophies and medals

Do the AFL have a podium big enough for our board?

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even after 15 years...reckon you'll see one? This is why the 'status quo' has to change now. Carlton will learn the hard way. You need to adapt and if you don't adapt - you get left by the wayside...on and off-field.

Fair question. We're as far off now as I think I have ever seen us... including early 00s.

Cant have it both ways.

Either structure it as a privately owned club or keep it as it is and tighten up the constitution (board appointments) so the board's actually accountable to the members.

We ve all been crying out for over a decade that our club is stuck in the past.
There's been the same feedback about us from people who ve come to us from other clubs, and have been shocked at how behind the times we are.
Yet for some reason, the hob knobs up in the high offices and the Board Room just don't / don't want to get it.
We didn't learn after the Cap punishment, and tried the quick fix 'Carlton way' of trying to buy our way out of trouble (getting Judd).
This hasn't worked.
We don't seem, to have learned our lesson!!
Its a cancer we just have to cut out, as its slowly slowly killing our Club.

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Separate to the 00's, I had some doubts in my teens with Jezza as coach and even Parkin's first year at the helm. A Port Adelaide turn-around is possible, but only with a unique set of people and circumstances. The board has to recognise that the culture has to change.

The crucial (and obvious) factor in this is how big a broom is LoGiudice going to bring with him? And then of course what sort of people come in as replacements. If he's got a clear vision and the drive (and mandate, let's be honest), to change the club the foundation for a relatively quick turnaround may be in place by the end of the year (new CEO focused on the right areas, director of footy, list manager - let the baker bake the bread, eh, Mick).

I'm not particularly hopeful, however. The urgency however is real - we can't limp through until the end of the season and make changes. Ideally if there are new CEOs and footy ops types to be brought in, you'd like them in place well before recruiting season (officially) commences, and also to have the final say on matters such as Gibbs' contract etc.

Pinter but we sacked two recruiters and have yet to replace them.
surely thats planning.... in a season where we have come to terms with what we are... we havent replaced recruiters as yet.
When was the Geelong guy severed?
and how long has it been since they would have known Hughes isnt the future?

Nothing about this club is planned and organised.

Its a hotch potch of half baked stuff....

can you smell what were cooking????

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I don't understand people's negativity against McKay. The guy has been in the job for 2 years, if that and has come over very well-credentialed. At the very least we need to give him a chance.

What makes you think he has a broom? He's a Mathieson man and as such he'll steer the ship and make sure the numbers remain with the Mathiesons' rather than with the Pratts. See previously - the Pratt faction has had the numbers. That's how I see it anyway...sure - he'll make some changes - but I doubt many the kind you are talking about.

I'm sure DocSherrin posted that there had been two appointments to recruiting?

I agree with the rest though; it's a buggers muddle.

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I once witnessed him put a cat to sleep. I doubt there are any list managers out there who could do that.

Too many here putting the cart before the horse.

We need to address the root cause of the current breakdown.

ACCOUNTABILITY.

The board need to be accountable to the members or we'll end up in the same situation down the track... mistake after mistake going on and on because they answer to nobody...

Speaking of recruiting specifically, Synners - it seems the Geelong chap was brought in with a view to transitioning away from Hughes. If (how big an if???) the media reports are to be believed he got scared off by how diabolical our set up was in that area that he bolted.

All the more reason to get some new leadership and drive in place. Rudderless ship.

Responsible for ALL those average players being under contract when Malthouse took over at the end of 2012. As poor a case of list management as you could imagine. That (and the fact that we had no room in the cap) was why Malthouse couldn't make changes to the list when he first arrived.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

yes mckay makes great speeches of propaganda.....

he can stay...

we need as much brain numbing propaganda as we can give...

forget about list management
drafting strategy
salary cap
contracts

its propaganda were interested in...

hard job isnt it surrey?
thats why he needs to be fantastic!!!

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