clean out all the assistants
There is not one line that know how to play properly or with cohesion, the only thing that goy us into the finals the last couple of years is pure talent.

The scenes of the perplexed coaching group on the sidelines at qtr time were damning...

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Is Greaves still with us? Wasn’t it his job to temper shit ideas?

How do we add someone ‘reassuring’, for lack of a better word, without putting Vossy on training wheels. Because Juddy scorched that earth when Teague was in the chair.

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Is the thought of getting in “better assistants” and/or “support” another delusion we are embarking on to cover up the fact that Voss was the wrong hire, or is there merit in this?

We know the days of having one messiah to do the job are over, but I can’t see how any senior coach would allow themselves to be babysat like this, especially Voss.

Have we [REDACTED] this up? I’m still torn because at 11-4 and thumping Geelong the way we did, clearly SOMETHING was being done right.

Hard to say without knowing the dynamics of how things are working currently.
Is there enough questioning of the plan?
Is there enough challenging of underlying assumptions that drive decision making?
How open is Voss to review and analysis? Etc

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I don't know if it's comparable but things turned around significantly for Hardwick after some big changes in support given.

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Until we get gun assistants in we will never know.

Hansen has his fans and haters.. But ultimately, would anyone be devastated if West Coast took him?

I don't think anyone is banging down the door to poach hamill or jordy Russell for a flag tilt.

Clarke seems to have some wraps on TC.. But not sure how highly he is rated in the market ? Seems to go all right with clearances

Development coaching is an interesting one. Not sure how to gauge that teams performance ?

i think clark has coached the stoppages well in attack and getting first use.

but his defensive side and us being 18th ranked team at defensive stoppage scoring, automates him being shown the door. hansen too.



anyone else find it telling that voss was off the sidelines in the 4th qtr Vs lions, and hansen was on the boundary. is there something to that? has voss been trusting/ delegating others to do the big tactical stuff in the box, and he finally caught on they're not up to it?

i think it was a significant move.

Bit late in the game/season for that... being worst at defensive stoppages and 4th worst at defending, not exactly new problems.

Nah, I'm going with the theory he was unsettled by a voice behind him banging on about great vengeance and fuuuurious anger.

lol ... furious anger.

he got heckled into submission. you're probs right.

Why would a gun assistant come to Carlton? What would you learn from Voss that you wouldn’t get at a dozen other clubs?

There’s no accountability from Voss. When was the last time at a press conference he said ‘yeah, I got that wrong, that’s on me’?

Why would they need to learn anything?

Coaching isn’t some linear path where you serve an apprenticeship to become a master or @#$%&! off into administration.

If they don’t contribute, what’s the point of them?

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Well if I assume that they have aspirations to become senior coaches then they’ll equally be looking to fill in their own knowledge gaps. Imagine having a succession plan where we’re able to develop a gun assistant into a long term senior coach….

Development isn’t, or shouldn’t, be limited to players.

Hansen, Hamill & Clarke all have contracts for 2025.

I think Hansen has to go, otherwise it’s John Barker all over again. This is what you get when you hunt these perpetual aspirants. They’ll do good things for sure, but they’re not here for the club. At the end of the day, we’re just a springboard for their career. Except, the door at the top of the stairs won’t open for them. And there’s no chance they’ll head back down.

Hansen isn’t going to win a top job & he can’t carry on as ‘Senior Assistant’ here. I’ve got no doubts whatsoever that he’ll be a great assistant somewhere else.

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will the club break a contract and pay more money? they seem kinda tightass about these things?

If Ken Hinkley became available, would we want him as an assistant coach?
(Assuming he doesn’t go ahead with his contract with Port next year and assuming he isn’t snapped up by West Coast…)


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Maybe? I was impressed by his tactical acumen in stopping the Dawks despite most of Port's best players out or hampered by injury. Dunno what him trading places with Voss would do to their working relationship.

If Ken leaves Port, I’d reckon he’d bugger off for 12 months before riding shotgun somewhere else.

Vossy would still have his ear, regardless… but, without doubt, he’d be a welcome addition.

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It took me a few years to realize, but most line coaches are preaching from the same hymn book. Success makes or breaks an assistant. It's largely down to the players. Our guys aren't saying much different to the Swans and Lions assistants.

Our game plan, setup and execution is very different to say Sydney’s.