I said Setterfield was a bust
I’ll say the same thing about Mc Govern next year
To give up 5 good players for 2 unproven players after our worst season ever in 2018 is criminal
Add the Stocker trade debacle and this is why our depth is shit

Silvangis legacy lives on for a while

Fact

Freo didn’t want to keep Acres either….

Imagine if Weideman was still available at our selection…

And Austin is addressing it.

Windscreen bigger than the rear view mirror.

I can't quite work out if you're happy we traded him away or not...

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Doubt it . Who would be OK with getting in the gutter with that slime bag ?

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Strange post

I'll back McGovern in to do really well next year as a defender. Looks fitter and the penny has dropped. Voss won't allow mediocrity. Williams the same

People can blame SOS but I reckon the coaching, development and culture at the club has been the bigger issue

I’m glad he is gone because it has nothing to do with culture.
Some footballers are simply not good enough
Setterfield is not good enough only a dumb club like Essendon* would contemplate having him on an AFL list
McGovern has talent but makes way too many errors. He doesn’t do the hard stuff well enough .
My point is when they were recruited
To recruit 2 guys for potentially 5 good players at a time when the club was at its lowest in terms of performance was ridiculous not to mention a million dollars in salary cap space per season
A club like Geelong simply doesn’t do that shit
That’s why they are constantly up there
They get some wrong but more right

Setterfield was constantly talked up by posters on here teammates and the club
Why?
Because he was a top 5 pick

Dow is in the same boat
He ain’t good enough
No awareness craps himself under pressure disposal is unsatisfactory
Like Setterfield a good VFL footballer

Has a team ever been successful at the high end of the draft without a solid investment in player development/welfare? There's a massive correlation between the Collingwood, West Coast and Hawthorn types who can afford solid investment in player development/welfare and their strike rate at the draft compared to the start ups, Melbourne, Lions, North, Carlton etc.

That’s the problem posters on here have. Excuse after excuse.
In todays footy world at the top level recruiting talent is number one in terms of importance
Player development is important but if you haven’t got the socks to start with there is nothing to pull up

The club bullshitted it’s way through a presser in 2016 saying the quick fix was over.
It only took just over 2 years before the club did a backflip on that old chestnut.

Our top end talent is excellent but our depth is poor.
Recruiting decisions like Setterfields add up down the road.

I have said this sooo many times
Have a look at the Premiership teams year in year out
So many rookie late picks
Geelong a classic case this year
Your head of List Management is the most important employee at your club

Recruiting talent is number one in terms of importance.
But also Geelong have a bunch of rookie late picks?

The goalposts are just always moving in your argument.

I don't think its an excuse so much as an economic reality that teams with more money to spend investing in their high end talent, are ending up with far better strike rates on their high end picks than those who are just drafting the right players and hoping for the best.

Wonder how Scully would have fared outside of the Melbourne/GWS environments. Everyone rated Lachie Hansen in 2006 as a top 3 talent.

The Setterfield and McGovern trades involving giving away a plethora of 2nd round draft picks are putrid trades not only in hindsight but we’re bad at the time, we hugely overpaid for both players.

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I think you're arguing against your own case again keogh. Hitting on so many late picks and rookie picks and turning them into AFL standard players - this surely talks more to the development side of things than the drafting.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

We could have had Bobby Hill, Ben Cavarra, Justin McInerney, Shane McAdam and Luke Foley?

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Terrible trade for Setters and regardless if we were not using Pick 68 or pick 69 don’t get why we gave that and him for future 4 th round pick

I get that we had no leverage but get screwed over by Dodo every time we trade with him

Didn’t need to pull the trigger on MONDAY for trade should have made them wait

yes he was out of contract but Essendon* were falling over themselves for a big bodied midfielder so were desperate to get him

Essendon* desperate for forward so MELBOURNE are making them wait for Weideman

Austin in the last few years seems to want to finish work in trade period early in one way good but in another way suggests to others we are too easy or eager to deal

Acres good business and Jones pick Setters and stocker terrible so we would want to do better whatever else we do in trade period

Sorry JONES pick good business

For the record, Geelong's top 4 in the B&F this year are 29, 30, 31 and 34.
If that was us, you'd be squealing like a pig.
Selective bitching as usual. Our list is building beautifully.
We've made mistakes but so has every club.

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Good band name that.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Did you talk up Setterfield?
As Agro stated there is no getting away from it
The Setterfield McGovern trades were shockers
The Stocker fiasco
We lack depth
Geelong has it in spades when guys like Menegola Ratugolea can’t get a game. Parfait
The recruiting staff at Geelong pick predominantly players who have the weapons to play AFL whether it’s pace awareness or competitiveness
Close
Atkins
Blicavs
Henry
Miers
Zac Guthrie
All rookieir late picks
They pluck Stewart from South Barwon
They get Stengle for nothing

And they trade really well
The Cameron trade was brilliant Touhy for Smedts and Plowman
Do you want me to go on?

What weapons did Setterfield have
Name them
We gave up a pick in the 20s and 43 and after 5 years and SFA we trade him for a fourth rounder

Yet you still Trott out the same shit even when the powers to be at the club think he is shit too
For his own sake I hope he does ok At Essendon*
He is probably a nice guy
But he is an average AFL player

Debut album, Everything is Everything by Selective Bitching.

Lead by the double A side single, Combines Are Pointless/He Can’t Run.

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