Our new coach - 2016: Brendon Bolton - 25/8/15

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8201

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

club29 wrote:

CAMPO

He'd have to be a show for the crows job you'd think

Looking a better chance by the week.

murraycray · **Posted:** Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:32 pm

jim wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Because he's never played at highest level. Never works as you never get full player respect. Fails each time. I remember Brendon McCartney, highly regarded but also never played at the highest level, coming out of a similar wonderful system at Geelong and struggled at the Dogs. Brittain, coming from under Parko and another who had never played at the highest level, managed to take us from a GF, PF, from Parko's days, to a spoon in 2 years. You can go back before then too with others.

I do not want to go down that path again in our precarious situation. Our tail wags the dog enough, don't give the players another excuse.

You want to go that way, your risk. Especially when there's other seeming competent one's like Don Pyke, dual premiership player, who's had his own team, experienced and highly regarded assistant.

Agreed. We need someone who understands what's required to play at this level. Otherwise we may as well appoint Joyce Brown.

Blue Laguna · **Joined:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:09 pm **Posts:** 35

Don wrote:

Robbo on SEN says Bolton over the line

Robbo thinks Hird is clean.

camel · **Posted:** Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:59 pm

murraycray wrote:

jim wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Because he's never played at highest level. Never works as you never get full player respect. Fails each time. I remember Brendon McCartney, highly regarded but also never played at the highest level, coming out of a similar wonderful system at Geelong and struggled at the Dogs. Brittain, coming from under Parko and another who had never played at the highest level, managed to take us from a GF, PF, from Parko's days, to a spoon in 2 years. You can go back before then too with others.

I do not want to go down that path again in our precarious situation. Our tail wags the dog enough, don't give the players another excuse.

You want to go that way, your risk. Especially when there's other seeming competent one's like Don Pyke, dual premiership player, who's had his own team, experienced and highly regarded assistant.

Agreed. We need someone who understands what's required to play at this level. Otherwise we may as well appoint Joyce Brown.

At least she knows how to give birth to a premiership player.

padre · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:56 pm **Posts:** 934

It is just as important imo that the new coach is really focused on player development. Imo the disconnect between the blues and our VFL team has been one of the biggest problems with our player development. As a former coach of the Hawks VFL team , i think that it is a fair bet that Bolton understands this very well. He will accordingly demand and get a top line VFL /development coach as a matter of priority. He of course will also demand and get , assistants that understand what is required.
The above is my number one ask of our new coach, because to get back to the top , we have to develop our own premiership list, not try to buy it like we have in the past. An d we obviously have the task ahead.... But added to that he is reportedly a great tactition . He is not afraid to get in the players faces when needed. He clearly knows how to implement a game plan.
All things point to him being more than competent in all facets of the game

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

cimm1979 wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Jim thinks it's impossible for a guy who's never played at the top level to be a successful senior coach. Believes the players won't respect him.

Seriously? Someone still believes that stuff? Lol. That's funny. What on earth has one to do with the other?

Just out of interest, has anyone here ever seen Joel Coen, Steven Spielberg, or Martin Scorsese act?

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:13 pm

moshe25 wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Jim thinks it's impossible for a guy who's never played at the top level to be a successful senior coach. Believes the players won't respect him.

Seriously? Someone still believes that stuff? Lol. That's funny. What on earth has one to do with the other?

Just out of interest, has anyone here ever seen Joel Coen, Steven Spielberg, or Martin Scorsese act?

Scorsese has done a few cameos .

He's a bit wooden. :grin:

Robert Heatley · **Joined:** Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:04 pm **Posts:** 615

padre wrote:

It is just as important imo that the new coach is really focused on player development. Imo the disconnect between the blues and our VFL team has been one of the biggest problems with our player development. As a former coach of the Hawks VFL team , i think that it is a fair bet that Bolton understands this very well. He will accordingly demand and get a top line VFL /development coach as a matter of priority. He of course will also demand and get , assistants that understand what is required.
The above is my number one ask of our new coach, because to get back to the top , we have to develop our own premiership list, not try to buy it like we have in the past. An d we obviously have the task ahead.... But added to that he is reportedly a great tactition . He is not afraid to get in the players faces when needed. He clearly knows how to implement a game plan.
All things point to him being more than competent in all facets of the game

This is probably the most compelling reason to appoint Bolton. The whole Preston/Northern Bullants/ Northern Blues situation has been a disappointment.

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

moshe25 wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Jim thinks it's impossible for a guy who's never played at the top level to be a successful senior coach. Believes the players won't respect him.

Seriously? Someone still believes that stuff? Lol. That's funny. What on earth has one to do with the other?

Just out of interest, has anyone here ever seen Joel Coen, Steven Spielberg, or Martin Scorsese act?

Absolutely. And who the hell at Carlton has the right to give grief to someone like Bolton? Half the team shouldn't be playing 1sts anyway.....some should not have even been on the list.

toddkurnski · **Joined:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 am **Posts:** 3581

Blue Laguna wrote:

Don wrote:

Robbo on SEN says Bolton over the line

Robbo thinks Hird is clean.

"Dayne Beams is not leaving Collingwood. Take it to the bank" - Robbo at his best.

jenx · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:50 pm **Posts:** 809

moshe25 wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

Blue Steel wrote:

jim wrote:

Back Pyke @ $9.

Hope it's not Bolton.

Why do you hope it's not Bolton? From where I see it he is well placed to get the gig.

Been a key part of the most successful system going, through Box Hill to senior side (a synergy between 2nds an seniors we can't seem to get right). Seems to have the culture we need too...smiling assassin?

Jim thinks it's impossible for a guy who's never played at the top level to be a successful senior coach. Believes the players won't respect him.

Seriously? Someone still believes that stuff? Lol. That's funny. What on earth has one to do with the other?

Just out of interest, has anyone here ever seen Joel Coen, Steven Spielberg, or Martin Scorsese act?

Too true, can't believe people still spouting this shit

Bellichek, Jose, Wenger etc

Get with the times

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:37 pm

Barker has lost me.

One Minute we play this take-it-on free running style of play, then we kill our momentum by going all defensive.

Plus, this bringing a player off after he kicks a goal thing is really starting to annoy me. I know other coaches do it too but bloody hell!!! :banghead:

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

I think barkers odds are blowing out...rapidly

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

1000/1

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 14986

Who would want to coach this lot?

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

John Longmire interested & available.

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 14986

Ockham's Razor wrote:

John Longmire interested & available.

kennyhunter · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 pm **Posts:** 2432

Get on the Horse!

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

I think barkers odds are blowing out...rapidly

Dead duck, no chance

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

Horse > duck.

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