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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:10 pm 
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it's not the 80's anymore mate ... it's 2024 and the game barely resembles the 80's; 90's or even early 00's product. you can't attack players like you could; it's much more faster and skilful and the blueprint to winning comps is turnover and pressure and playing as fast as possible. all the things we don't do with two rucks.

and for the love of god, old sport ... stop acting like you have voss on speed dial in your 1999 nokia 3310. bcos like the 2G network, your ideas and the game you remember is gone.


You mentioned just a few components of the game. There's more to it than going as fast as you can. There's gears mate. You can't run all day, but I'll tell you, Carlton can run harder and longer than all the other teams, but not all day, and that has nothing to do with 2 rucks.

You know nothing about me. I haven't even turned grey yet. I go out alot. I know a lot of people. I love a chat. I love a party. I think I'm good company and love a beer or 10. Good luck keeping up with me grasshopper.

If you read my posts and retained the information you'd know I have plenty of time on my hand, sort of retired at 55yo, and am still involved and connected with the modern game of AFL, on a daily basis, not just through my sons, and that Sydney Swans connection, but I know players and coaches really well at the Swans, and other teams. I have best mates' kids playing AFL. We go away with them. We talk. I can tell you heaps of stories if you sit on my knee like a good boy.... players managed stories, current maiming stories, maiming tactics, styles of play, dirt, and good stuff you don't hear at your source; SEN. I know a lot of Football people who are still relevant in the AFL despite your wicked assumption on age.

Have you met Vossy? Have you spoken with Vossy? Have you met or spoken with any of the other coaches? Andrew Russell. Try it. Anything can happen if you try. I have. I don't have a hotline, but when the opportunity is there I take it. If I can make it happen, I do. I've met them on tables at Functions. You'd be surprised what you learn at InBusines Functions. I always go to the most unpopular VIPs. I take interest and show respect. Try it. I love to discuss the philosophies of the game, how he's changed, what hasn't changed, 2 rucks, the different styles of play, why some players who fans disgracefully attack are selected week after week (eg Plowman)....with everyone connected with AFL. I love it.

Speaking of thugs in GF's. There's one player who is a Football Manager of a top team who was one of those thugs in 1973 who is older than me, but still involved in AFL and knows more than you. He's my best mates good friend. They travel together. They come to Sydney too.

PM me your number, and I might invite you to a lunch when I'm in Melbourne with some AFL people. They're normal you know. They don't bite. They are human.

As for comment "you can't attack players" .... there's an old saying you may not have heard " there's more ways than one way to skin a cat". Have a look at the game this year vs the Swans. Tell me what you see in nearly every contest involving our toughest, strongest player, our captain and look at what he cops in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Tell me it isn't still a game of attrition. Have a look at when he falls on top of the ball what Jordan does, every time, and the umpire didn't pay frees. Grinds him into the ground. Falling on his back. Kneeing when he can lay a knee...accidently ofcourse, then have a look when other players have a chance to pile in knees and all, 2 3 of them. Are you that naive. There's so much I can tell you about what really happens out there. No such thing as woke when you cross the white line....it has always happened, even before the 80's... but small steps grasshopper...I don't want you to overload your young fresh brain which probably been sizzled by Game Boy when mum was asleep. Get real.

Anyone who thinks the players are not aware that AFL, like VFL, and VFA before that, is a game of attrition, and they have to do whatever they can to wear out the opposition.

TDK is still a developing young body and not the finished product. He will not be playing week in week out like he has the last 3 weeks. Mark my words. It doesn't take much to know that. Do you really think this purple patch will be the norm till the GF? Don't bet on it. Its a marathon matey. He is an easy target. Have a look how much time he ends up on the ground fighting for the ball on the ground like a rover, sometimes ending on his back. You don't think he's not an easy target to maim? You don't know how to hurt people if you don't. Wake up, yep, all this in 2024.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:10 pm 
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I'm not saying we are hopeless with one ruck. I'm not saying that there are games TDK or Pitto can't ruck on their own. I'm not telling anyone TDK hasn't played incredibly well in the last 3 games.

I'm simply saying its not too hard to see why Vossy would play 2 rucks, and present the arguments for, and if he does (select 2 rucks), he's likely to find a way to make it work before Finals, and there's no guarantee TDK will keep up his current form every game for the remainder of the H & A, and no guarantee he will put up this sort of performance in the Finals. THre's a strong possibility he will need Pitto's help. If he plays the Prelim with the same performance he showed against the Cats, the track record shows you, he will be fatigued and sore in the GF. I'm informing you that outside of your bubble (assuming its SEN & TC) most people know Vossy prefers 2 rucks. Look Listen Learn. Lastly, from what I've heard from others who spoke with Vossy is that he is unlikely to play the one ruck. Is that hard to believe?

Its a simple debate braithy, its not about ones preferences, but about the possibility of Voss going with 2 rucks in the H&A and in Finals. Simple. Those thinking its impossible to see it happening are impossible to discuss this with any further.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:13 pm 
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I think we were down by 30
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:14 pm 
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if freo make the top 4, i'll personally drive to your house with a bouquet of white roses symbolising peace, harmony and our friendship, using my anal cavity as a vase.



You still owe us a nudity run through the streets of Melbourne.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:17 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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this is dire reading.


it's not the 80's anymore mate ...

and for the love of god, old sport ... stop acting like you have voss on speed dial in your 1999 nokia 3310. bcos like the 2G network, your ideas and the game you remember is gone.


Sorry I was a bit tardy getting back to you mate, but I just got off the phone with Vossy. He sends his regards. I didn't know he knew you so well.

dire reading? Truth hurts everyone braithy. Regardless of age, you're also human.

Don't be disrespectful and try to use age to make you feel superior. You're not.

I refuse to allow age to enter this debate and use your lack of experience against you. cue Ronald Reagan debate.

You come across as a naive teenager, but you said you work, so maybe late teens, and you seem to have no notion on how many people my age are coaching AFL teams TODAY. They have a lot of wisdom and know a lot more about what can and can't happen out on an AFL field.

You make out you are the one connected to the real world circa 2024 but I have proven over and over that you don't. I'm not doing that to belittle you, I'm doing that to stop you getting too ahead of yourself and prepare you for the inevitable, AND hopefully you show some civility and respect to Vossy if he chooses to select 2 rucks, which he has this year, AFTER you stated "he wouldn't... if he wanted to win". That is silly talk. I know you're clutching for straws with that style of argument.

You presenting made up facts to make your point may work on some posters but not on me little buddy, that's why I'm nipping them at the bud. Vossy isn't an idiot when he selects 2 rucks and Vossy doesn't select 2 rucks to lose as you suggest....regardless if he said it publicly or not, to me or not. Its just not right what you say.


lol ... it's dire reading bcos at this point i'm going to need an audio translation bcos you can't write with brevity. it's also dire bcos you're stuck living in the past.

footy is a risk. injury is a risk. throughout history it's often the most healthy team, is the last one standing. more than voss, i actually trust russell, who's done this 4 times with the hawks and kept them healthy when it matters most.


as for all other stuff you're trying to say here, you've genuinely lost me old sport. you've become the literary equivalent of old man shakes fist at sky.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:20 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:


if freo make the top 4, i'll personally drive to your house with a bouquet of white roses symbolising peace, harmony and our friendship, using my anal cavity as a vase.



You still owe us a nudity run through the streets of Melbourne.

Shallow promises.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:34 pm 
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Braithy wrote:

you think the pies cared what other teams were rolling out on their way to the flag last season? they ran everyone off the park with pressure and turnover. same as the tigers, as did the cats and hawks and all the flag winning teams of the last decade? melbourne is the only big-bodied possession based team in the last decade who've won a flag - and we could argue covid was the outlier there and life in the hub etc had more to do with that?

point is, right now in the last 6 weeks (re we're finally healthy and more importantly playing with 1 ruck) and we're number one in turnovers, scoring from turnover, defensive pressure, points allowed, 2nd in offense, team in the afl. all the exact attributes that wins finals and wins flags.

why do we shuffle the cards, to cater to inferior systems with inferior lists? they're chasing us. the whole horses for courses things is redundant for us, imo. (that only changes if we lose players to injury)


That's right Braithy they are and will be chasing us....not because of the rucks, but because of Vossy's refined Game Plan, and Russell's Strength and Conditioning.



What do you look at when you watch a GF? Legs running? Do you look around to see tactics, zones, slowing down of play, roles?

You pick a game which proves your argument is baseless re 2 rucks. Baseless. 2023 is modern football isn't it? You've got a lot of learning to do.

Everyone should take note of the following from the 2023 Grand Final

Collingwood's 2 rucks 50 HO's vs Brisbane's 1 ruck I KPF 23 HO's

Without 211cm Cox (31 HO's) and 204cm Cameron (19 HO's) dominating Oscar (19 HO's), and make shift ruck Daniher (4 HO's) in the ruck, there's no way the Pies would have won the GF without that service.


Lets not mince words with TWO Bloody rucks.

Cox played Pitto minutes 67% game time
Cameron played 59% game time.

The rucks were running in the last quarter.

Daniher played 93% Game Time
Oscar McInerney 89% Game Time

FFS its a game of attrition. You can't ruck for a whole game in a GF....ask Gawn...see what Pitto and TDK did to him in the cut throat Final. 2 rucks beat 1 ruck again.

Who was it who said, 1 ruck is the modern game? I get teams don't have the option to play 2 rucks, but in a GF the team that won played 2 rucks who were fresh all game...filling holes

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Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:


if freo make the top 4, i'll personally drive to your house with a bouquet of white roses symbolising peace, harmony and our friendship, using my anal cavity as a vase.



You still owe us a nudity run through the streets of Melbourne.

Shallow promises.



https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/man-arrested-after-walking-around-naked-near-st-vincents-hospital-20170318-gv15xd.html


That's why I like you braithy. You're a scream.

I'm not picking on you anymore, you are one Adonis. :clap:

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jake_h03 wrote:
Well, in a few hours we're going to get some insight into how Voss and the MC view the ruck situation. First time since TDK's breakout that they've had both of them fit and available. Will be interesting to see if they go back to the 2 ruck setup or if TDKs form over the past month and our results have changed their minds.

If we go with 2 rucks, of course we back Voss in and hope it works. But I'll need to see a fair bit of evidence of it working before I'm convinced. Of course Voss know a hell of a lot more than any of us, but it doesn't mean he doesn't get things wrong


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Lets hope we win regardless

Constant rain in Sydney may have a say in the make up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:41 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Well, in a few hours we're going to get some insight into how Voss and the MC view the ruck situation. First time since TDK's breakout that they've had both of them fit and available. Will be interesting to see if they go back to the 2 ruck setup or if TDKs form over the past month and our results have changed their minds.

If we go with 2 rucks, of course we back Voss in and hope it works. But I'll need to see a fair bit of evidence of it working before I'm convinced. Of course Voss know a hell of a lot more than any of us, but it doesn't mean he doesn't get things wrong



It will be one ruck this week - take it to the bank



TDK a Test.
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I think the possibility of TDK being taken out by a sniper should be low on the list of reasons for playing two rucks. It's just as likely that someone puts an early hit on Walsh, and we lose not only one of the best runners in the game but also the extra run we were planning to bring on late in the game. But really, is it as much a part of the game as it was in the Dermie sandwich days? I'm not convinced. A guy repeatedly trying and failing to put a bloke out 20 years ago suggests a man who's lost focus. And I'm not sure TDK is an easy mark, he's pretty strapping these days, and too agile for the ogres. By all means give him a chop out or three between now and that last weekend in September, but on the day I'm backing him as lead ruck, not having him play the majority of the game in a position he's far less effective in.


Exactly, its pretty negative thinking. It's like saying we should play Lemmey in case they go after Charlie or Harry. They're gonna come at all our best players, and we'll go at theirs. TDK's a big boy and he's playing with an energy that few ruckmen do. It's like he's a grade 6 kid now and he's ruling the playground. Why don't we let them worry about who he might be crashing into? Manage him through the season like we are and have him cherry ripe to dominate finals


Really? How did your math come up with that. Similar to GE's point re Walsh targeted.

2 KPFs - 1 injured = 1 KPF

1 Ruck - 1 injured = 0 KPF

Its not that hard. Youre making it hard for yourself.
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Well, in a few hours we're going to get some insight into how Voss and the MC view the ruck situation. First time since TDK's breakout that they've had both of them fit and available. Will be interesting to see if they go back to the 2 ruck setup or if TDKs form over the past month and our results have changed their minds.

If we go with 2 rucks, of course we back Voss in and hope it works. But I'll need to see a fair bit of evidence of it working before I'm convinced. Of course Voss know a hell of a lot more than any of us, but it doesn't mean he doesn't get things wrong



It will be one ruck this week - take it to the bank


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bondiblue wrote:
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jake_h03 wrote:
Well, in a few hours we're going to get some insight into how Voss and the MC view the ruck situation. First time since TDK's breakout that they've had both of them fit and available. Will be interesting to see if they go back to the 2 ruck setup or if TDKs form over the past month and our results have changed their minds.

If we go with 2 rucks, of course we back Voss in and hope it works. But I'll need to see a fair bit of evidence of it working before I'm convinced. Of course Voss know a hell of a lot more than any of us, but it doesn't mean he doesn't get things wrong



It will be one ruck this week - take it to the bank



TDK a Test.
May be rested again.


Assuming GWS plays Riccardi as second ruck again then it hardly matters who plays second ruck for us. Even H or Crippa would have a field day. Probably not the best conditions for a controlled experiment, and combined with the Shi'ite weather we shouldn't be going too tall. Bulldogs will be a better game for it... two on six :D.


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One punch, three corks, doesn't matter. Yes it does to me, to the player hit, to my team, and if we lose a GF because of it, it matters even more to everyone, including you.

But I agree, there is a degree of risk going with one ruck. Nice play.

I'd be prepared to take it unless we see evidence of a two-ruck two-KPF system that scores and defends from both stoppage and turnover to the required level... I agree, if Vossy can't make it work, he wont go there ... maybe have Pitto as a sub...break glass option, or for the purpose of this argument, insurance.

but even you would admit that has not been proven yet, right? Not right at all! There you go again. Putting words in my mouth. I'm asking you questions about insurance to draw a picture and I have of a risk taker, but you're putting words in my mouth, I deny

If you want to believe braithy that the 2 rucks didn't happen between round 14 and the Prelim well I don't because I can't bullshit to myself and keep a straight face. It was a success. Felt like a miracle.

Like I said previously, just a few posts up, go back to the Crows game, and see your comments, go back to the GWS game and see everyone's comments including yours, and go to the Swans games when Pitto had to play with the injured finger bc TDK wouldve been up against Grundy and McLean, and yeah, TDK wasn't good at all, but we didnt lose the game in the ruck. See Vossy's comments. Listen to Cripps, Weitering and Walshy's interviews: the leaders failed and the midfielders allowed themselves to be dominated. Nothing to do with Ritto or 2 rucks. Melb we won rucks kicked goals. Gawny smashed by Pitto etc.

The 2 rucks played 6 games together.
Lost to the Crows when they kicked 3 goals in 5 minutes after Pitto was rested, only played 50% GT, mainly to not risk TDK against big burly OBrien, after we thought (possibly you too) we had the game in the bag. See your posts after game.
Lost against Geelong, we killed them in the rucks and TDK kicked 3 behinds, and the press was to far up the ground and Cats easily got us at the back, we won all stats except score. See your posts after game.
Lost against Pies in a close tussle. Rucks did really well. Pitto 68% GT, Walshy let Daicos slip away to kick winning score. Close defensive game we lost bc of tardy defense.
After all the above block of games we had Saad Gov and Fog back in the team, and we got better as a team, and have improved. All the credit for our improvement goes to TDK?
I don't blame the losses on 2 rucks at all. In fact, I don't think TDK hit good form this year till the GCS game, coincidently, as the sole ruck.


My point has been, 2 months ago that Voss prefers 2 rucks and it happened. Today, I believe he still does, and will want play them to find out how to make them work, so don't be surprised, and if he does, I don't think he's an idiot for trying. Thereafter the argument is about Finals and whether Vossy goes for 2 rucks or not. Insurance or no need for insurance. That's all.

The heat in this argument has been that I dont like Vossy being called an idiot for playing to rucks, and call it bullshit that he'd only play them if he didnt want to win, and that Pitto is not useless



So we both await the evidence, and like I said, I am happy for those investigations to take place between now and September. Great

In the meantime, would you admit there is risk in playing minus one mobile player, especially if one of our premium mobile players is successfully eliminated by the dark arts? This isn't the debate. The answer is obvious. Stick to the 2 rucks... the argument is that its easier to cover a premium mid because we have Cripps Cerra Kennedy Hewett as premium mids to cover easier than having no cover losing a sole ruck. That's all

You accuse people of minimising the risk of TDK playing as lone ruck, but your assessment of the risk of playing fewer runners seems to be "it makes no difference".

Here you go again GE...same as 2 months ago...its about me accusing people, trying to paint a picture of me, trying to twist wiords, trying to be smart.......have a look above to remind yourself what the argument is. I think Voss likes 2 rucks! What I don't like and arguing against is hearing posters say something along the lines that Vossy wouldnt do it (2 rucks)...that if he did....you know rthe rest...what your a saying is I'm accusing people of minimising the risk...WTF....get with the program....it couldnt be further from what we are discussing. I don't get what you're weaving again, but what I will accuse you of is you are being mischievous.

Well, the results this season force you to rely on mitigating factors - absence of key personnel - that could equally arise in a GF if the oppo decides to turn back the clock. So how much leeway does your system offer?
Whoa Whoa Whoa Force me? equally arise?....just talk straight...what is it you want me to commit to saying, then I will answer you straight ...so eloquent but its not about me and my big game plan....what is this the big closing question to baffle me, to entrap me.....you know what I think, Ive told you plenty of times....its more than just peronnel...you liked the 2 ruck idea for a minute 2 months ago when you heard the kms players are running with THIS carlton...and found that compensated the 2 rucks, then you changed your mind, then you sit oin the fence, you go back and forth, and change your miind, and swayed by braithy & Co.

Its about time you tell us what you think we lose with 2 rucks. Come on. Give me some substance.


Hey, I thought you were going away and not going to GWS game.

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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Well, in a few hours we're going to get some insight into how Voss and the MC view the ruck situation. First time since TDK's breakout that they've had both of them fit and available. Will be interesting to see if they go back to the 2 ruck setup or if TDKs form over the past month and our results have changed their minds.

If we go with 2 rucks, of course we back Voss in and hope it works. But I'll need to see a fair bit of evidence of it working before I'm convinced. Of course Voss know a hell of a lot more than any of us, but it doesn't mean he doesn't get things wrong



It will be one ruck this week - take it to the bank



TDK a Test.
May be rested again.


Assuming GWS plays Riccardi as second ruck again then it hardly matters who plays second ruck for us. Even H or Crippa would have a field day. Probably not the best conditions for a controlled experiment, and combined with the Shi'ite weather we shouldn't be going too tall. Bulldogs will be a better game for it... two on six :D.


:lol: :thumbsup:

I reckon the more minutes we put into the 2 rucks the better, against different opposition, in different conditions its all good...we are in red hot form with one ruck or two....don't forget the other 22 fellas in ripping form.

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Mate, I'm not trying to entrap you or be deceitful or mischievous or whatever. And I'm not siding with braithy against you. Take a breath! I've said many times I'm not fundamentally opposed to one system or the other, just saying this season has provided compelling evidence of TDK as single ruck- four consecutive BOGs, highest rated game of the season , second highest rated player in the league since round 8 (both per champion data), there's the facts for you - but inconclusive evidence for the two ruck model. I'm not going to sook if Vossy selects two rucks, in fact I'd embrace it just so we can talk about something else!


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I reckon the more minutes we put into the 2 rucks the better, against different opposition, in different conditions its all good...we are in red hot form with one ruck or two....don't forget the other 22 fellas in ripping form.



i hope 2 rucks doesn't happen - i don't think it will, i think it only will out of necessity thru injuries. The real solution is for harry to get a little more physical, a little more fitter and for him to play a more meaningful role as 2nd ruck. then our team balance would be perfect.

... espesh with Zac and Elijah really coming on and being substantial in our F50. defensively (along with fog) they lock it in, but they're find all kinds of space to either get the ball, or make room for charlie to. And harry will always cip in with a couople goals when tdk is playing in the middle.


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Mate, I'm not trying to entrap you or be deceitful or mischievous or whatever. And I'm not siding with braithy against you. Take a breath! I've said many times I'm not fundamentally opposed to one system or the other, just saying this season has provided compelling evidence of TDK as single ruck- four consecutive BOGs, highest rated game of the season , second highest rated player in the league since round 8 (both per champion data), there's the facts for you - but inconclusive evidence for the two ruck model. I'm not going to sook if Vossy selects two rucks, in fact I'd embrace it just so we can talk about something else!


:lol: Youre a good fella GE. :thumbsup:

Good advice for me to take a breath. I was on a roll, and didn't heed that advice.

I made my point. 2 rucks isn't out of the picture for Voss, and it could happen for the reasons I gave, and, Pitto has proven he is good enough to be the sole ruck. So we shouldn't be worried about the ruck (fitness and form aside). We are lucky we have cover everywhere except FB (Weiters), but then again Young helped us win games with best 22 players injured and our game was still evolving. I did my best to prove some of the numbers and claims made against Pitto and 2 rucks were wrong. That's what this forum is about. Acurate stats can prove the argument either way; I know that.

TC always had a reputation for intelligent debate, and I want it to stay that way. Some good posters here, young and old, and I'd like that to continue. So I need to behave too.

I know Vossy had a preference for the 2 rucks, but a lot has changed since then. TDK's form for example. He isn't the finished product, which is scary, but he attacks the contest now like he believes in his own ability and knows what to do to help the team win. Great opportunity to see what he can do on his own against Briggs in the ruck. Around the ground TDK will leave Briggs for dead. I don't think we are risking 4 points playing TDK alone against the heavy set Briggs, such is our advancement as a team.

As I said I trust Vossy, so I have to wait and see what he does. He has built and coached this team, to the point we all trust them to do the job, regardless of the individuals missing selection. We have evolved into a different beast: a real impressive beast.

There's a good chance we will see Pitto again, like last week's reasoning, but for now, there is a good reason to play TDK as the sole ruck.

There's no guarantee of 2 rucks, and I have no inside knowledge that 2 rucks will or wont happen, and if Voss does play 2 rucks it will be because they are both in form for starters, opposition dependent, or Voss couldn't live with the thought that one ruck may expose us in a Final ie Insurance, (even if he doesn't select Pitto to play alongside TDK in the H & A). GF's have a history of surprise selection.

You know what I'd do. My opinion isn't right or wrong, nor far fetched as it was made out to be.

This week's team looks fantastic IMHO. It's even faster than last week's team, with added endurance. Good of Braithy to acknowledge we need improvement from our 2nd ruck for 20% GT, to stop leaking goals, and jake backing Voss whatever he decides. I'm sure Vossy is onto that too. Vossy has proven he's got the coaching team to employ tactics to help us beat any opponent (and we have plenty of incentive to reverse the result against Sydney).

Onwards and upwards. We've won 5 games straight. We only need to win every game till the end of this year to match the feat of our 1995 side. Its not about the 1995 side though, because these boys are "writing their own history" (Voss quote).

So good to have the Baggers in the Top 4 again. Feels like home. :thumbsup:

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Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I reckon the more minutes we put into the 2 rucks the better, against different opposition, in different conditions its all good...we are in red hot form with one ruck or two....don't forget the other 22 fellas in ripping form.



i hope 2 rucks doesn't happen - i don't think it will, i think it only will out of necessity thru injuries. The real solution is for harry to get a little more physical, a little more fitter and for him to play a more meaningful role as 2nd ruck. then our team balance would be perfect.

... espesh with Zac and Elijah really coming on and being substantial in our F50. defensively (along with fog) they lock it in, but they're find all kinds of space to either get the ball, or make room for charlie to. And harry will always cip in with a couople goals when tdk is playing in the middle.


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I believe you might be right; same with Vossy.
I would never have believed I would have you and Vossy as winners in the same sentence.
I value your opinions braithy as long as you are respectful to players and coach. We are all on the same side.

Stronger Together.

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