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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:45 pm 
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Diesel 95 ,mate hope he plays 200 games wins a flag just that his speed /pace is what concern me ,but hope he proves me wrong


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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 Post subject: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:58 pm 
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Diesel 95 ,mate hope he plays 200 games wins a flag just that his speed /pace is what concern me ,but hope he proves me wrong


i hope so too. he’s shown enough to me that he’s been something we’ve been missing for a long, long time on the HF line. and MIA in the case of Jack Martin and has a little more class than JSOS.

he’s almost cripps like at times. sidebottom ability to have time and space to use it well. gets it at the right times in games.

reminds me of Clappe for some reason. i think with enough leg speed around him (Binns, Billy, Cottrell, ¿Camporelli twins?) he’s all good.

the impressive thing to me is the way he makes position on the ground in such a way as he puts speed on our ball movement in spite of not being a fast runner. when he gets it in the middle we are more direct to goal through the corridor. rather than our at times, very predictable, slow, risk adverse, around the crowded “thin side” kicking to contests.

i like the variety to Voss’s “layers” that he brings.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:03 pm 
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diesel 95 ,thinking same if does same amount of work on the training track (strength/ fitness) he could be our new crippa ,it is all up to him now with this opportunity


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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The AFL havent ruled out changes to the academy and father/son points bidding for this year.
Laura Kane was interviewed and said clubs should know in a couple of months.
You just know we are going to get screwed over.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Blake Acres has re-signed until the end of 2027.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

They’re talking about picks after 54 (three rounds) having no points value - and here we are with a clutch of fourth rounders.

We’ll get the twins, that’s not an issue.

Where we’re at a disadvantage is not being able to move some of the value from either of our first two picks into future years. The fourth round picks don’t seem like much, especially when there’s only 60-odd picks getting used. But, they make that job easier.

As it stands, picks 60, 61 & 66 (361 points) are now worthless to us & anyone that might’ve traded for them.

Fair compensation would be a mid 3rd round pick.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Carlton not in the hunt for Stengle according to Twomey.
Apparently a lot of interest in Owies.
Also saying Ben Campo will go around 25 and Luke a bit further out.

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 Post subject: List Management 2024
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Crusader wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

They’re talking about picks after 54 (three rounds) having no points value - and here we are with a clutch of fourth rounders.

We’ll get the twins, that’s not an issue.

Where we’re at a disadvantage is not being able to move some of the value from either of our first two picks into future years. The fourth round picks don’t seem like much, especially when there’s only 60-odd picks getting used. But, they make that job easier.

As it stands, picks 60, 61 & 66 (361 points) are now worthless to us & anyone that might’ve traded for them.

Fair compensation would be a mid 3rd round pick.


From my understanding the changes won’t come in this year. The clubs were almost universally against the league changing rules manoeuvring had already been done for this draft, even if they weren’t directly affected.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:42 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

They’re talking about picks after 54 (three rounds) having no points value - and here we are with a clutch of fourth rounders.

We’ll get the twins, that’s not an issue.

Where we’re at a disadvantage is not being able to move some of the value from either of our first two picks into future years. The fourth round picks don’t seem like much, especially when there’s only 60-odd picks getting used. But, they make that job easier.

As it stands, picks 60, 61 & 66 (361 points) are now worthless to us & anyone that might’ve traded for them.

Fair compensation would be a mid 3rd round pick.


From my understanding the changes won’t come in this year. The clubs were almost universally against the league changing rules manoeuvring had already been done for this draft, even if they weren’t directly affected.


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Was never going to happen this year.
Restraint of Trade.
AFL knows it has Buckley's Chance getting that over the line.

The threat of change by Kane was simply a diversionary tactic to take the focus away from the terrible state of the game, and the controversy around that.

The AFL has made a mess of Aussie Rules over the last 2 decades, and are back tracking and have gone back to the rules we enjoyed in the early 80's, to avoid the game looking like rugby just as our forefathers of the game stated, because the game is impossible to officiate since the AFL discarded/ disregarded how rules such as, in the back, push in the back, correct disposal, marking (remember 3 touches and its a mark? see G Ablett), and a pack forming was adjudicated.

The AFL did not considered the impact all their changes have had on the body of players let alone the look of the game since they changed rules to make the game faster. Stupid premise to start with.


Its the new AFL rules which have encouraged and crept into the game that are the cause most of the injuries we see today. The game has too many Rugby Union elements in today's mode. Don't blame Andrew Russell and his team. We are dealing with humans, and despite the fact we call the players "Gladiators", the AFL forget that is a figure of speech, a simple metaphor to highten the description of what the players do, not to be taken literally, as the AFL Commission seems to have done.

I have never seen the media, past players and people like me who have watched the game evolve over decades, be so critical of the game today. How many times have you heard or said, "I don't know the rules anymore? ".

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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 Post subject: List Management 2024
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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jake_h03 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

They’re talking about picks after 54 (three rounds) having no points value - and here we are with a clutch of fourth rounders.

We’ll get the twins, that’s not an issue.

Where we’re at a disadvantage is not being able to move some of the value from either of our first two picks into future years. The fourth round picks don’t seem like much, especially when there’s only 60-odd picks getting used. But, they make that job easier.

As it stands, picks 60, 61 & 66 (361 points) are now worthless to us & anyone that might’ve traded for them.

Fair compensation would be a mid 3rd round pick.


From my understanding the changes won’t come in this year. The clubs were almost universally against the league changing rules manoeuvring had already been done for this draft, even if they weren’t directly affected.


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As if the AFL would make a stupid, illogical decision which undermines one of the fundamental traditions of this indigenous game...


Hang on....


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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jake_h03 wrote:
Welcome back Bondi!

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Yep , good to see .

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 Post subject: List Management 2024
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kezza wrote:
Blake Acres has re-signed until the end of 2027.


good news. he might have heard teenaged footsteps haha! he’s proved his worth time and again, even if his field kicking lets him down.


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Crusader wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
In the Age today, they intimated that father son bidding would not be changed this year

They’re talking about picks after 54 (three rounds) having no points value - and here we are with a clutch of fourth rounders.

We’ll get the twins, that’s not an issue.

Where we’re at a disadvantage is not being able to move some of the value from either of our first two picks into future years. The fourth round picks don’t seem like much, especially when there’s only 60-odd picks getting used. But, they make that job easier.

As it stands, picks 60, 61 & 66 (361 points) are now worthless to us & anyone that might’ve traded for them.

Fair compensation would be a mid 3rd round pick.


if that’s the e case there’s a moral/legal argument that AFL is dudding clubs operating under AFL rules. i’m not sure if Clubs have any legal standing in commercial arrangements with AFL about draft rules to challenge and it’s probably impolitic for one club to fly solo on a challenge. Voss made it sound like we’d made our case and we’ll accept the chips where they land.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Marchbank
Cuningham
Martin
J.Carroll
Owies

Barring any surprises, three of these guys won’t be with us next year.

There’s an obvious three… it’ll put a dint in the culture, but at the end of the day, “the best ability is availability”.

We’ll start next season with at least 10 players on zero games - 11 if you include Binns.

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Owies has kicked 20 goals and might finish the year with 30+. I think he stays.

Carroll has played a bit this year and we don;t have that much midfield depth.

One of the other three max stays.

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Can't see more than two of them going.

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