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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:21 am 
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There's two players that I don't want to see come in this week LOB (weak and makes stupid decisions) and Fisher (makes stupid decisions). They both lack the footy IQ to make quick sound decisions at AFL level.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:41 am 
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Dow has been OK but he's not a LT player for us. Throws it on the boot way too often. Lacks composure.

Also despite being in the system a number Iof years now he's still physically weak and struggles to tackle the bigger bodied mids. Still has kid shoulders.

Time to unleash the 'Cun in the midfield..


Both will spend time in the midfield.

I read that gaining territory was the order from Voss in the last quarter, and Dow gained metres.
He was usually ahead of the opponents and running past them in his clearances; not much short to connect with.

If he can balance out his game between handballing too much, or kicking too long, he will please the in between supporters.

He's going fine. He's a depth player, asking for very little to stay on the Carlton list because he believes in himself.
Dow is 24yo this year. If he keeps growing as a footballer imo he is a good long term investment, and may give a club (maybe us), 5 years of great service for chips.


Don't agree with this.
His penchant for just throwing it on the boot has been evident over the journey. He lacks poise. He's nowhere near the talent of our better mids.


Did I suggest he didnt have a habit of just throwing it on the boot over the journey?

I'm commenting on his last game vs Pies

Did you read the story/or was it an interview, with player quoting Voss' directive in the last quarter was to get it into our territory quick and lock it in. Looked like Dow was doing this.

In the VFL he just handballs it to the closest player.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:59 am 
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AFL injury Report and whose in the Mix

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St Kilda could regain Max King just a month after he dislocated his shoulder in round 17. The 23-year-old will need to prove his fitness later in the week but is a chance to face Carlton on Sunday. Bradley Hill is on track to play after missing the win over Hawthorn on Sunday. Tim Membrey returned in the VFL and could be in line for a recall. Jack Hayes has now played two VFL games and a practice match and could be ready for another chance at AFL level after recovering from a knee reconstruction. Nick Coffield and Tom Highmore were both impressive in the VFL on Saturday. - Josh Gabelich

R20 sub: Jade Gresham (replaced Zak Jones)


Will Gresham make the Best 23 with Cooper Sharman has being cleared of serious damage after the club thought he had strained his hamstring at Marvel Stadium on Sunday.

Sharman played on Sicily, subduing the star defender while kicking two goals of his own. Hill will come in for Jones imo. Who comes out for King after Caminiti was cleared to play?

Jones is out for the rest of the season. I'm afraid Gresham's spot in the Bset 23 is precarious. Good depth for Saints to have up their sleeve for Sub :grin:

After missing three games after dislocating the shoulder he had reconstructed in December, King is pushing to return against the Blues this weekend.

King has been earmarked and prepared for this do or die Finals like game vs Carlton. He underwent an arthroscope on his shoulder after dislocating it in round 17.

Let me say that again. Dislocation, Arthroscope, misses 3 games and returns after 4 weeks. Confirms my thoughts on Harry McKay's return as early as the Melbourne game, and should be the GCS and GWS games.


This makes no sense.
Just because one team is desperate doesn't mean we need to be.


I'm not sure if you are saying what I posted makes no sense because of my bad grammar, sentence structure, tense, or is it the point about a possible return of Harry 4 weeks after an arthroscope?

If the latter, it does make sense, and I'm not saying its a definite. Its not a definite. Neither is the 5-8 weeks quoted by Andrew Russell. Are you thinking its definitely 5-8 weeks for Harry?

I'm giving evidence about the arthroscope King had, and the time it took to heal from that.
If Harry has recovered, that is not 'desperate" to play him. If he hasn't recovered and is selected, that is desperate.

Lets see paddy. Harry has form returning 2-3 weeks earlier than expected.

Same person has set the expectation this time as the last time he was out for a long period.
Its good news if Harry is back for last 2 games, if not last 3 games. If not....bad luck.
Neither of us know. There is no definite, just hope from my end.
I'd place a bet he will be back with 8 weeks after arthroscope (Monday 17th July). ie before 11 sept.
In fact, I'd place a bet he plays another H&A game (last one is 27th August) and the game before that too. Just a hunch.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:03 pm 
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Just read the VFL Report for last week:

Jaxon Binns: 32 Disposals, 11 Marks


This Kid has been getting 30+ for weeks now... how long are we going to ignore giving him a Game? Surely he deserves a go, even though the timing might not be ideal...


He might be much better than Dow....who knows? I am just worried that if he keeps getting ignored, he might request a trade elsewhere next year!


Binns deserves a shot, but he is not a midfielder: he's a wing. Dow is a midfielder and next in line after Walsh, Cerra and Kennedy. That's fair enough.

I've heard that Binns is next in line if Cottrell is injured playing the High HF role. Another running machine.

Lots of fans and media commentators think its wrong to select a kid to play his first game as a sub; I don't.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:05 pm 
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I'd be testing Hill and King out in the first 10 minutes.


Exactly.

I hope they do play. Wouldn't be in peak form.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:14 pm 
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Just don't let Weiters do the testing.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:49 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Just read the VFL Report for last week:

Jaxon Binns: 32 Disposals, 11 Marks


This Kid has been getting 30+ for weeks now... how long are we going to ignore giving him a Game? Surely he deserves a go, even though the timing might not be ideal...


He might be much better than Dow....who knows? I am just worried that if he keeps getting ignored, he might request a trade elsewhere next year!


With Walsh, Cerra, and Kennedy out we desperately need some more strength around the stoppages, and that’s one thing Dow brings. He may lack composure but he can certainly find the footy at stoppages and rack up clearances.

Binns looks like a find but he’s listed at 180cm and 72kg. As others are mentioned the only role he can be considered for atm is on the outside, which is being filled by Cottrell and Hollands. Definitely not the right fit to replace Cerra

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:56 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Just read the VFL Report for last week:

Jaxon Binns: 32 Disposals, 11 Marks


This Kid has been getting 30+ for weeks now... how long are we going to ignore giving him a Game? Surely he deserves a go, even though the timing might not be ideal...


He might be much better than Dow....who knows? I am just worried that if he keeps getting ignored, he might request a trade elsewhere next year!


Binns deserves a shot, but he is not a midfielder: he's a wing. Dow is a midfielder and next in line after Walsh, Cerra and Kennedy. That's fair enough.

I've heard that Binns is next in line if Cottrell is injured playing the High HF role. Another running machine.

Lots of fans and media commentators think its wrong to select a kid to play his first game as a sub; I don't.



Binns could easily become a mid. Has all the tools. So could Hollands. Binns kicking is also much better tha reported before draft

Interesting that Hollands comes straight in but Binns doesn't. See them next to each other and Binns is definitely stronger looking and looks more physically ready but they seem to want to hold him back


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:03 pm 
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Sorry, why are we comparing King's shoulder injury to Harry's knee?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:06 pm 
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Sorry, why are we comparing King's shoulder injury to Harry's knee?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:11 pm 
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Is there anyone in doubt other than Cerra missing?

If not Dow in for Cerra is the only change surely?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:20 pm 
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Is there anyone in doubt other than Cerra missing?

If not Dow in for Cerra is the only change surely?


Yeah you’d think so. Getting back to TDK as the lone ruck can’t come quick enough but with JSOS and Harry out Pitto has to stay in. Can’t afford to go with only one ruck and one key forward


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:25 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
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Sorry, why are we comparing King's shoulder injury to Harry's knee?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:28 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
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Dow auditioning for the Saints, Gresham auditioning for us?
I very much doubt King will play but if he does, I doubt he will be able to do much except possibly play a decoy role.

Finally, I do thinkCharlie gets a lot of frees but that is because opposition players crap themselves when they’re against him and the ball comes in their direction and often do something illegal just out of desperation.


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Highlighted bit is 100% correct.


Absolutely!!

I hope last week's game was a wake up call for the opposition so that we might see Charlie kick a few more from his brilliant individual efforts, rather than (deserved) free kicks.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:33 pm 
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Marchbank has 1 full Game under his belt... that's about his range... he will either pull out this week or breaks down as usual.

I also expect Martin to break down too.....and McGovern is due for a Hammy :grin: :grin: :banghead:


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:36 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Marchbank has 1 full Game under his belt... that's about his range... he will either pull out this week or breaks down as usual.

I also expect Martin to break down too.....and McGovern is due for a Hammy :grin: :grin: :banghead:


Geez, you must be a real hoot at parties! :garthp:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:39 pm 
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I KNOW right….

can’t we manifest some positive thoughts
please…it’s pretty easy…!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:41 pm 
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Mil Hanna wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Marchbank has 1 full Game under his belt... that's about his range... he will either pull out this week or breaks down as usual.

I also expect Martin to break down too.....and McGovern is due for a Hammy :grin: :grin: :banghead:


Geez, you must be a real hoot at parties! :garthp:



Mil, what on earth are you doing living in Perth? you need to come back to Melbourne... You owe us a TV appearance at least :donk: :donk:



As a Club, we have always had a Poor run with Injuries and surely it is more than just a run of back luck.


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Dodo27 wrote:
Marchbank has 1 full Game under his belt... that's about his range... he will either pull out this week or breaks down as usual.

I also expect Martin to break down too.....and McGovern is due for a Hammy :grin: :grin: :banghead:


And yet you're still putting 700 million dollars on us this week?

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