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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:05 pm 
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Dow and Fritch look alike, almost like twin Brothers, so play Dow on him, it might confuse the demons...... otherwise, expect a Turn over party!!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:09 pm 
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Going by the AFL site Medical Room Injury list at Round 22 we have 14 listed players to their 4.
That sort of evens things up.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:33 am 
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tommi wrote:
Hmmm….

Young Lewis Young to ruck…and TDK
to defence…!

Other side of…

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:40 am 
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Injury report states jack Martin should be available and was only taken off as a precaution. So I guess he plays the first half till he gets subbed out with more calf issues.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:31 am 
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Surely after the last 2 weeks and their captain being suspended we get a response this week

Might not win but still lots to get out of game

Need to be inventive how about JSOS tagging Oliver or Petracca

Hope Carroll might be considered as a midfielder

Maybe Setterfield and Martin ( if fit ) run through the middle
Fisher more time in the middle

Kemp also to play


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:34 am 
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Why not try Durdin in the midfield for some pace /run and tackling pressure


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:35 am 
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Could we play Charlie through the middle in bursts in the Cripps role?

Ideally - McKay plays deeper on one of May or Petty, you play a smaller forward line of Owies, Durdin, Martin, Motlop and JSOS, deprive Petty and Lever of an obvious matchup, and you follow from Collingwood's lead of not giving their marking defenders any oxygen.

In practice, when we've done this, we've just booted the ball on Owies head all night and Lever will take 12-14 uncontested grabs instead.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:58 am 
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I tend to like the idea of Charlie playing a bit through the middle. I remember Pagan throwing Carey into the middle in the 99 GF to break open the game.
And i’d also be inclined to have SOS in there too.
And I like Durdin joining Fisher and Walsh and Cerra.
And yes, I’d play Harry deep.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:06 am 
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I reckon Charlie would be a Kouta type mid but it would take time to learn. He has the skills and the engine. I would love to see him spend some minutes in the middle during games.

Issue is he is also a gun forward and they are rare.

Next year we need to get Carroll Stocker Kemp fit enough and up to speed and add to our midfield. Motlop has also played there in the WAFL but needs to build his engine and get experience. That's all we have.

Next year it will be Cripps Kennedy Cerra Hewett Walsh Carroll Stocker Kemp. That group needs some leg speed especially from the contest. Fisher is one option. A dominant ruckman is also vital


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:13 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
I reckon Charlie would be a Kouta type mid but it would take time to learn. He has the skills and the engine. I would love to see him spend some minutes in the middle during games.

Issue is he is also a gun forward and they are rare.

Next year we need to get Carroll Stocker Kemp fit enough and up to speed and add to our midfield. Motlop has also played there in the WAFL but needs to build his engine and get experience. That's all we have.

Next year it will be Cripps Kennedy Cerra Walsh Carroll Stocker Kemp. That group needs some leg speed especially from the contest. Fisher is one option. A dominant ruckman is also vital

Hewett?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:19 am 
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NTBlue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
I reckon Charlie would be a Kouta type mid but it would take time to learn. He has the skills and the engine. I would love to see him spend some minutes in the middle during games.

Issue is he is also a gun forward and they are rare.

Next year we need to get Carroll Stocker Kemp fit enough and up to speed and add to our midfield. Motlop has also played there in the WAFL but needs to build his engine and get experience. That's all we have.

Next year it will be Cripps Kennedy Cerra Walsh Carroll Stocker Kemp. That group needs some leg speed especially from the contest. Fisher is one option. A dominant ruckman is also vital

Hewett?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:19 am 
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I agree with some of the posts about who we are going to put in the midfield.
Charlie
Durdin
Docherty
Saad
Carroll
Williams if he is available against Collingwood
The selection panel need to think outside the box, we have nothing to lose by doing so. So why not be creative?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:22 am 
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79Vintage wrote:
I agree with some of the posts about who we are going to put in the midfield.
Charlie
Durdin
Docherty
Saad
Carroll
Williams if he is available against Collingwood
The selection panel need to think outside the box, we have nothing to lose by doing so. So why not be creative?


I don't think Voss will. He has always said this is about long term and developing as a group and learning structures. He has barely made a move all year.

Only thing I can see is him moving Setterfield or Jack into the middle to help replace Cripps. Maybe Hayes onto a wing. I can't see him doing much more than that


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:22 am 
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The next two weeks are made for Voss.
Any chance we have will rely on effort, intensity, attitude.
(Plus a few very basic skill and tactical improvements.... ie. hit your targets, lower your eyes, use your teammates, help your teammates...)

But, if we can just find a way to win one of these games and/or the Bulldogs drop one, we'll hopefully be close to full strength and kicking down the door in the first week of the finals!
PS. I do think we'll find a way to win one, and I also think the Bulldogs will drop one.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:28 am 
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To be even half a chance to win this one we need to come with manic pressure. Effectively that’s what got Collingwood over this mob last week.

Also need to take the game on from half back. Change angles and use the corridor where possible. Melbourne sweat on the long down the line kick with May, Lever and Petty stationed behind the ball. They do squeeze the ground very high when they’ve got the ball locked in their forward 50 so you can get them out the back but only if you’re willing to take the game on through the middle.

Finally we need to get inventive with the midfield. Maybe try JSOS in a midfield role negating a key Melbourne ball winner. Give Motlop or Durdin a couple of CBAs. They will do it with Pickett. Motlop has done it at WAFL level and Durdin was a midfield until u17/18s.


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FarmerBlue wrote:
I don't think Voss will. He has always said this is about long term and developing as a group and learning structures. He has barely made a move all year.


I really hope you're wrong. Making the finals is vital for the psychology of the club; maybe the players and coaching staff don't see any huge difference between 7th/8th+elimination final loss vs. 9th/10th, but the latter would be humiliating to fans and the outburst of negativity would cast a pall over the club. I don't see how breaking from the plan for a week to ensure qualification derails the long-term project. If anything, it gives us the confidence that we can respond to any situation.


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david31 wrote:
To be even half a chance to win this one we need to come with manic pressure. Effectively that’s what got Collingwood over this mob last week.

Also need to take the game on from half back. Change angles and use the corridor where possible. Melbourne sweat on the long down the line kick with May, Lever and Petty stationed behind the ball. They do squeeze the ground very high when they’ve got the ball locked in their forward 50 so you can get them out the back but only if you’re willing to take the game on through the middle.

Finally we need to get inventive with the midfield. Maybe try JSOS in a midfield role negating a key Melbourne ball winner. Give Motlop or Durdin a couple of CBAs. They will do it with Pickett. Motlop has done it at WAFL level and Durdin was a midfield until u17/18s.


What's a 'CBA'?
(Sorry for my ignorance...)


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Collective Bargaining Agr... no.
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Sorry, I got nothing.


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