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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:44 am 
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on a more serious note...

if the players love Mick it must be for his cooking because it sure as shit aint for his coaching. The players have absolutely no desire or motivation or belief in what is happening out there.

That was very close to the strike game of pagan days against norf.

our setups are ridiculous, yes we have some below average players and some buttersoft princesses but they have almost zero opportunity to show anything.

for 90% of the game our forwards were defending their forwards down the eagles end of the ground, it was like our forward 50 had ebola and nobody wanted to go near it.

So we win a contest and .......... kick it to their numbers... we were in our own way congesting our own defensive 50 and couldn't get the @#$%&! out of it.

no run , no spread, nobody to kick to, nowhere to move.

idiotic nonsense - there was more structure in the auskick at halftime.

Micks only genius move of the game was after we were about 50 down and he swapped the insipid rowe from CHB with Henderson from CHF - which in reality was practically swapping FB and CHB the way the bloody players were setup all game.

i have never seen a worse game of football at any level live.

Mick is well and truly past it and should @#$%&! right off now, we are going nowhere fast.... much faster than we move the ball.

also the only player to show any disgust and feeling after the game was simpson who spent about 30 seconds punching the turf and convulsing on the ground in some weird worm like movement.

the rest just wandered around , having a smile, shaking some hands, flicking some fringes

judd wandered off by himself - clearly perplexed at what the @#$%&! he is putting himself through

disgraceful performance

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:47 am 
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i can't believe i just sat through that garbage at that shithole subiaco stadium with all those @#$%&! moron eagles supporters

actually those moron eagle supporters are the highlight of the night... THEY ARE BACK FOLKS !!!!., their idiot supporters are back !... 'top 4 !!!' ....'gee freo would be scared for next week watching this'.......'eagles...clap clap clap'

absolute wankers of the highest order

and they can shove their plastic song up their granny arseholes


But Grro, we let those moronic guys back after having them nice and quiet in the first Q.


Mick couldn't respond to Adam @#$%&! Simpson changing things up, players couldn't handle it (or give a @#$%&! about it) either

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:48 am 
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'Matt Rosa came in on to Judd and we couldn't respond"

seriously .... dumb old man

seriously !?!??!?! - thats what he said ?!!?

did he think before he said that or is that what he really believes?

Matt Rosa killed us

genius

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:00 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
'Matt Rosa came in on to Judd and we couldn't respond"

seriously .... dumb old man

seriously !?!??!?! - thats what he said ?!!?

did he think before he said that or is that what he really believes?

Matt Rosa killed us

genius


That was really weird. Sorta like Mick admitting he was lost. And he struggled to remember the leadership group.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:00 am 
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Grro he was emphasising that they only made one personnel change and the rest of the team couldn't shift around that for whatever reason. He cited emotional and mental reasons for it.

I think that's pretty fair to say based on your 'hair flick' comments.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:00 am 
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I'll give you an example of where we are as a club.

Many on here applauded the recruitment of Everitt (not blaming him for our woes). I wasn't one of them. The reasoning was that people were satisfied that we simply dropped down the draft from pick 32 to 39 and picked up Everitt. We didn't have to give up too much. Flawed thinking in my view. In our situation, a complete rebuild should have commenced after 2012. Picking up a serviceable player, who has been in the system for many years was not the direction we should have taken. Complete rebuilds commence through the draft, particularly having multiple early picks. And yet I am still waiting for the club to get serious and rebuild this list from scratch.

For the record, I would traded Kreuzer three years ago when he had good value. I would have also considered a trade for Gibbs about two years ago. These are the sort of decisions that should have been made. The horse has bolted unfortunately.


Yep, in theory you are correct although I don't know how much it affected our pick in this case but that might not be the point.

It makes you wonder what the scenario last year might have been if GWS' pick that they traded to us was just a little higher. It could be the difference between a blunder and a shrewd bit of recruiting.

Anyway, a full rebuild should have been it. However, many of these players we've got don't even seem to have what it takes in the short term so what's the point? :confused:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:01 am 
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MIL wrote:
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'Matt Rosa came in on to Judd and we couldn't respond"

seriously .... dumb old man

seriously !?!??!?! - thats what he said ?!!?

did he think before he said that or is that what he really believes?

Matt Rosa killed us

genius


That was really weird. Sorta like Mick admitting he was lost. And he struggled to remember the leadership group.

...

He struggled to remember the leadership group from 3 years ago.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:01 am 
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People can identify the coach as the problem, and there's plenty of ammunition right now, but our troubles go deeper than that. A change of coach won't get any instant results.


:clap: seriously do we think a coaching team of Clarkson and Hinkley could do much more with this crap list?

I'm not saying MM is the answer but to lay the blame purely on him is very short sighted.


I guarantee you Clarko and Hinkley would not have recruited Jones, Thomas, Tutt, Dick, Whiley, Wood, nor would they have kept spuds like White, Ellard and Curnow on the list. Oh and they probably would have been able to keep Betts, Garlett and Waite..... Seriously this guy has traded out our forward line and sent our best defender, Hendo, forward, so now we can't defend nor can we score!!! Oh and he's on track to deliver us a third year with 3 losses in a row.....Need I go on?


Ok, how about the spuds he has moved on that received multiple contracts prior to his regime? Maybe we would not have recruited Wood if we kept Jacobs, bloody MM.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:04 am 
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Grro he was emphasising that they only made one personnel change and the rest of the team couldn't shift around that for whatever reason. He cited emotional and mental reasons for it.

I think that's pretty fair to say based on your 'hair flick' comments.


he is the coach .... so he was blaming the players was he?

typical selfish old fool like the other selfish old fool we had before

his setups are as much if not more to blame as the "hair flicking"

his only move of the night - swap rowe and henderson when 50 down.

keep flooding our defensive 50 - have nobody to kick too, nowhere to run, no direction

yeah mick, mate, the players couldn't work out super coach adam simpsons rosa move.

6.1 at qtr time

look out here comes super rosa

can't score no more - players are overwhelmed at rosa's superpowers

that is serious pissing down our backs and telling us its raining

i am soaked !

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:06 am 
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jimmae wrote:
MIL wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
'Matt Rosa came in on to Judd and we couldn't respond"

seriously .... dumb old man

seriously !?!??!?! - thats what he said ?!!?

did he think before he said that or is that what he really believes?

Matt Rosa killed us

genius


That was really weird. Sorta like Mick admitting he was lost. And he struggled to remember the leadership group.

...

He struggled to remember the leadership group from 3 years ago.


Yep, I know. Still not a good sign, but who knows. We have certainly reached an interesting stage in Mick's tenure.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:06 am 
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i might be an idiot - and i probably am

but i sat there with a similar view of that game as almighty mick and i reckon rosa had sweet @#$%&! all influence on that game

you could be forgiven for thinking he didn't even play - like you could have thought gibbs and murphy didn't.

rosa had no influence on our pitiful approach to that game - none at all

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:08 am 
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i think judd didnt give a @#$%&!... rosa looked great

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:09 am 
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for 90% of the game our forwards were defending their forwards down the eagles end of the ground, it was like our forward 50 had ebola and nobody wanted to go near it.

So we win a contest and .......... kick it to their numbers... we were in our own way congesting our own defensive 50 and couldn't get the @#$%&! out of it.

Pointed out the exact same thing in the post-match thread last week - clear as day that we needed at least one permanent forward for team structure.

Yet the very next day, we 'developed' our best forward by playing him in the ruck rather than as a forward.... FMD


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:10 am 
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its @#$%&! matt rosa

super matt !

killer of teams

beware freo next week - top 4 !!! - they have super matt

i have the game on tv in the background now and i haven't seen rosa for a quarter and a half

I've seen priddis stand next to judd, I've seen gaff trot along side judd , even welling ham?

where is this super rosa and his kryptonite killing our entire team and game plan?

oh there he was - flashed past tutt

such nonsense from Mick - more nonsense than this post is

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:12 am 
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for 90% of the game our forwards were defending their forwards down the eagles end of the ground, it was like our forward 50 had ebola and nobody wanted to go near it.

So we win a contest and .......... kick it to their numbers... we were in our own way congesting our own defensive 50 and couldn't get the @#$%&! out of it.

Pointed out the exact same thing in the post-match thread last week - clear as day that we needed at least one permanent forward for team structure.

Yet the very next day, we 'developed' our best forward by playing him in the ruck rather than as a forward.... FMD


no need to develop a forward in the reserves

we don't have any forwards in our game plan

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:12 am 
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grrofunger wrote:
i might be an idiot - and i probably am

but i sat there with a similar view of that game as almighty mick and i reckon rosa had sweet @#$%&! all influence on that game

you could be forgiven for thinking he didn't even play - like you could have thought gibbs and murphy didn't.

rosa had no influence on our pitiful approach to that game - none at all

I think that was basically the point he was making about the Rosa move. His language is very cryptic with this stuff.

Mick often says one thing while he thinks another.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:16 am 
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Our midfield is atrocious. Constantly second to the ball. No ball getters. All trail their man to the contest and let Priddis and co gets first hands and stream away with little resistance. It was embarrassing.

Grro is spot on with our systems and structures. Or lack thereof to be precise.

Lack of on field leadership is also appalling. Murphy and Gibbs are doing sfa at the moment.

We are [REDACTED]. [REDACTED] for a long time. Probably never to seriously threaten again. At least not in my lifetime.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:17 am 
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well i guess he couldn't just come out and tell the truth could he

couldn't sit there and be honest and tell the world he is past it and his approach to the game was shithouse

i couldn't do that either - don't think many could in fairness to Mick

i probably could have come up with a better story than the rosa one though

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:24 am 
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well i guess he couldn't just come out and tell the truth could he

couldn't sit there and be honest and tell the world he is past it and his approach to the game was shithouse

i couldn't do that either - don't think many could in fairness to Mick

i probably could have come up with a better story than the rosa one though

The point - I believe - was one domino fell and then the rest followed. He politely called key players spineless.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:31 am 
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i can tell you from sitting there through it all, that is absolute nonsense Jimmae

he is deflecting from his own shit messages and instructions

wasn't like the first qtr 6.1 was genius coaching and perfect game plan and structures and then bang come qtr 2 rosa steps in and all the players were bamboozled and changed everything up and it all fell to pieces and they couldn't play anymore cos they lost their spines.

the eagles are shit - they are a bottom team FFS ! and they smashed us

our game plan looked very similar from siren to siren - we exploited their shitness early on and they responded and we didn't

not because rosa started a chain of events

because micks game plan and coaching ability was exposed - he made zero . ZERO changes until it was way too late and all he could come up with was rowe for henderson.

same empty forward 50 all game

same congested D50 all game (yet kennedy had a paddock - go figure ?!?!?! )

he is a stubborn old mule and won't look at himself and his teachings - he is deflecting to the players and making up stories to create his argument.

the players don't get off scott free but clearly mick is the problem

not rosa

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