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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:14 am 
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Umpiring in general is joke.
What the hells happened to the holding the ball and pushed in the back interpretations ?

After the Mexican loss to Holland, the coach came on to international TV and said how proud he was of the boys but when the referee gifts the opposition a goal like he just did, you haven't got much chance of winning.

The moral?

Umpires should cop it when they are incompetent. I'm not in agreement with what the refs in soccer put up with from the players in terms of in-you-face stuff and even pushing and shoving (in Argentina especially) but someone has to ask the questions.

The htb rule is a joke. If you get tackled you have to dispose of it properly by hand or foot. That's probably the least ambiguous rule in the book but it's the most over interpreted. If tackling is so important, why isn't it rewarded. Prior opportunity I agree with but after that it's black and white.

And in the back is another. One shouldn't need to be a chiropractor to work out where a player's back is.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:18 am 
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dadadadada wrote:
They run the ball out of defence, whereas we kick the ball out 1985 style.

They have a good future Collingwood due to their recruiting.

We needed goal poachers at the end ... the best one we had we sold off to Adelaide so MM could bring his favourite boy in.

Our players had flair, but Malthouse has ripped it apart.


Do you actually understand the concept of free agency?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:30 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Murphy is the worst carlton captain i have seen


He's improved as the years gone on in his Leadership, but Im wracking my brain trying to think of the last time / if ever, he's slotted through a 'captain's goal' when its been warranted.
Still, reckon he's the least of our worries.
At least he has a crack!!

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EDIT: Didn't read every post before posting. Apologies to Moshe. But for the time lag I'd have got in first.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:31 am 
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dane wrote:

Jamison seriously?
You ruined the entire post.


I dunno...wasn't named in the clubs top 150...read between the lines dane. :wink: :razz:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:39 am 
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3 things.

Umpires not taking control to keep Collingwood players from illegally impeding our players.

Lack of smalls to support or 'bomb it to a contest' philosophy

Lack of spread !!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:40 am 
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moshe25 wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Murphy is the worst carlton captain i have seen


He's improved as the years gone on in his Leadership, but Im wracking my brain trying to think of the last time / if ever, he's slotted through a 'captain's goal' when its been warranted.
Still, reckon he's the least of our worries.
At least he has a crack!!

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I should have:
a. known you'd do this
b. looked before I posted.

Are you sure we aren't twins?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:50 am 
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Jamison seriously?
You ruined the entire post.


I dunno...wasn't named in the clubs top 150...read between the lines dane. :wink: :razz:


I'm well aware of your thoughts on Jammo!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:13 am 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
If you think betts is better than thomas. Thats your perogative. I dont. If its a mistake. It cost us 200k
but dont forget to mention everett or docherty tonight or reincarnation of rowe
and just to jog your memory who gave up pick 11 for 60 games in 5 seasons mclean, or let jacobs go?


The list management blunders were meant to stop under MM; instead they've continued with the Thomas recruitment.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:46 am 
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I'm so over the way we give teams a head start and then play catch up and invariably fall just short.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:03 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
If you think betts is better than thomas. Thats your perogative. I dont. If its a mistake. It cost us 200k
but dont forget to mention everett or docherty tonight or reincarnation of rowe
and just to jog your memory who gave up pick 11 for 60 games in 5 seasons mclean, or let jacobs go?


The list management blunders were meant to stop under MM; instead they've continued with the Thomas recruitment.

Did we really recruit dale thomas.... I think he still plays for Collingwood - his first 5 disposals went directly to Collingwood players.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:20 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Umpiring in general is joke.
What the hells happened to the holding the ball and pushed in the back interpretations ?

After the Mexican loss to Holland, the coach came on to international TV and said how proud he was of the boys but when the referee gifts the opposition a goal like he just did, you haven't got much chance of winning.

The moral?

Umpires should cop it when they are incompetent. I'm not in agreement with what the refs in soccer put up with from the players in terms of in-you-face stuff and even pushing and shoving (in Argentina especially) but someone has to ask the questions.

The htb rule is a joke. If you get tackled you have to dispose of it properly by hand or foot. That's probably the least ambiguous rule in the book but it's the most over interpreted. If tackling is so important, why isn't it rewarded. Prior opportunity I agree with but after that it's black and white.

And in the back is another. One shouldn't need to be a chiropractor to work out where a player's back is.


This is my bug bear!!
You see players given 10 years to get rid of the ball when tackled, whereas in previous years, if you re swung around 360 degrees, that's enough chance to get rid of it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:23 pm 
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Carrazzo has nothing left. His handball in the first was the 3rd week in a row where he's been under pressure, sh*t himself, and cough up a lame duck handball which led directly to an opposition goal.

Sorry - he does have one thing left - another year on his contract. Says it all really.

But seriously - let's get McKay into the CEO chair as soon as possible, so he can 'fix' things.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 pm 
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Might have to ask him nicely to retire.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:31 pm 
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Who? McKay?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:36 pm 
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Well, I think the club has an opportunity to use some of the rule changes to its advantage this off season if they are bold and use their brains (which clearly on both counts would be a 180 from the last decade and require someone other than McKay to be involved).

In addition to all the obvious delistings, let's say they let Waite go in FA, trade Garlett to WCE for a second rounder and trade Kreuzer for hopefully a first, but more likely a second and a favouarble swap of later picks.

Instead of being typical, stupid and short sighted Carlton, they don't go and splurge that freed up $ and bank it for either a FA next year or chisel out one of the kids from GWS.

there should be a LOT of $ coming off the books this year. Unless McKay decides Judd is worth another $1m, Waite is worth another 2 year deal etc. All of which is far more likely than anything sensible happening.


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Megaman wrote:
Who? McKay?


How many games has he had lately?!
0 that's it meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegaman.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:10 pm 
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Punter22 wrote:
Carrazzo has nothing left. His handball in the first was the 3rd week in a row where he's been under pressure, sh*t himself, and cough up a lame duck handball which led directly to an opposition goal.

Sorry - he does have one thing left - another year on his contract. Says it all really.

But seriously - let's get McKay into the CEO chair as soon as possible, so he can 'fix' things.


..asking a vet to 'fix' our players..?.. ..that's a bit rough ain't it..?..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:21 pm 
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When are we going to change our under 10game plan,all year we bomb the ball the opp get back flood our fwd line and combine with numbers run it out space everwhere how many times have we seen this.Anyway 8 wks to go to its over .


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:23 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..asking a vet to 'fix' our players..?.. ..that's a bit rough ain't it..?..


Not to mention redundant.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:50 pm 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
If you think betts is better than thomas. Thats your perogative. I dont. If its a mistake. It cost us 200k
but dont forget to mention everett or docherty tonight or reincarnation of rowe
and just to jog your memory who gave up pick 11 for 60 games in 5 seasons mclean, or let jacobs go?


Oh FFS, do you really believe this stuff?
Malthouse wouldn't have known Docherty if he stood up in his coco pops.
It's the role of one of the recruiting staff to look at fringe players at other AFL clubs. The same as someone looks at the VFL, TAC, SANFL etc etc. (You know, the recruiting staff you continuously bag based on zero knowledge of their roles or responsibilities)
They make the recommendations.

But no, according to you, everything good = Mick, everything bad = Ratten/recruiting staff.
I swear some of you go to bed with a photo of Mick and have a good old Uncle Doug until your hand slips off the end and knocks you senseless.

At least give credit where it's due.

All clubs make bad trades, does the recruitment of Cameron Wood to Collingwood for pick 15 or Chris Bryan on a 2 year deal ring any bells?

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