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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:26 pm 
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Blueboy_Dan wrote:
Gee this thread is quiet considering what a great win that was.

Disgusting supporters we have.


Too busy celebrating.

Loved that win, first quarter was absolute bollocks. Lagging behind, no intensity.

The boys really tightened after quarter time, I'm disappointed in Bell when he had the ball, Robbo was good but still makes stupid mistakes that cost goals.

Menzel just need to get fit and he will be a champion.

Graham will be a champion. The kid just oozes class.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:28 pm 
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Our season is still alive and our players are good enough!! I can't say that enough.


Good enough for what? Making sponge cakes for the Girl Guides, beating the sixth placed side on a good day or winning a premiership? :confused:


Playing finals.
As for beating Richmond, well Richmond did beat Hawthorn just last week and were expecting too punish us this week. Also we did just beat them without Judd, Kruezer, Carrazzo and Garlett who are in our best 18.
Why do we need to continuously be so negative about our playing list. I'm not saying we will win the premiership but we are good enough to play finals and compete with the top teams. We have seen it this year. Problem is we don't do it consistently.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:32 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
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Our season is still alive and our players are good enough!! I can't say that enough.


Good enough for what? Making sponge cakes for the Girl Guides, beating the sixth placed side on a good day or winning a premiership? :confused:


Playing finals.
As for beating Richmond, well Richmond did beat Hawthorn just last week and were expecting too punish us this week. Also we did just beat them without Judd, Kruezer, Carrazzo and Garlett who are in our best 18.
Why do we need to continuously be so negative about our playing list. I'm not saying we will win the premiership but we are good enough to play finals and compete with the top teams. We have seen it this year. Problem is we don't do it consistently.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:33 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
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Our season is still alive and our players are good enough!! I can't say that enough.


Good enough for what? Making sponge cakes for the Girl Guides, beating the sixth placed side on a good day or winning a premiership? :confused:


Playing finals.
As for beating Richmond, well Richmond did beat Hawthorn just last week and were expecting too punish us this week. Also we did just beat them without Judd, Kruezer, Carrazzo and Garlett who are in our best 18.
Why do we need to continuously be so negative about our playing list. I'm not saying we will win the premiership but we are good enough to play finals and compete with the top teams. We have seen it this year. Problem is we don't do it consistently.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:11 am 
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Was at a wedding, missed the game. Bloody wife's friends :banghead: :banghead:


Thanks to bluehammer for the running commentary texts through the second half :grin:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:14 am 
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Casboult just kicked a goal after a huge mark, red time 3/4 time.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:33 am 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:47 am 
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Gibbs and McLean, take a bow. Couldn't have done it without Scotland either. Sack him though eh?


Scotland improved after qtr time, like everyone. Although he has put a few good games together over the last month, I suppose we need to decide when do we groom someone to replace him. He is 33yo, and there is no doubt that this season has seen a decline. I also think that despite his beautiful kicking technique, his disposal effectiveness over the season has been disappointing.


Scotland's disposal is over rated. Looks good but when it matters the turnovers are rife. Did like his aggression vs Petterd yesterday but that comes with the territory. Boy can throw 'em..


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:04 am 
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club29 wrote:
It has to mentioned that the tigers have probably lifted their training over the last few weeks to prepare for the finals. Would explain their inconsistent effort today.

Not saying we didn't play good but we should take into account our oppositions position.


How about being blanketed where it mattered? Players actually standing up when the game was on the line. Robbo actually thinking when he had the ball. 5 goals down and then the training load kicked in. Please. Ellis decided not to go near the ball. Riewoldt gave up. Cotchin decided to keep his best until the last 2 minutes. It's why our stars have been so shite this year.
Take your anti MM views into your other threads...enjoy the win


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:48 am 
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Makes me proud too to see all the lads going over to shake the hand of the lass in the wheelchair before the song. Shows a bit of class :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:53 am 
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BS you might not understand that a lot of midfielders prefer the ruck drop it at their feet.

SOme rucks like NN hit it beyond the inner circle...allowing their teammate to push their opponent IN towards the contest.

There are so many centre square nuances you lot don't seem to understand.

Whether the ruck can hit it at certain points on the clock, whether the midfielder likes it in space or dropped at the rucks feet.

I played ruck.
I understand it pretty well.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:19 am 
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Effes wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
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BS you might not understand that a lot of midfielders prefer the ruck drop it at their feet.

SOme rucks like NN hit it beyond the inner circle...allowing their teammate to push their opponent IN towards the contest.

There are so many centre square nuances you lot don't seem to understand.

Whether the ruck can hit it at certain points on the clock, whether the midfielder likes it in space or dropped at the rucks feet.


Didn't matter where he tapped it, he tapped it to richmond players most of the time, even when he did punch it clear it went straight to Richmond players.

He gets plenty of taps, but he has negative control, it always goes where our players aren't!


Yet we won the clearances 45 to 35, centre square 14-12, around the ground/throw in 31 to 23

Strange that!

How many were his, how many were roved to Maric and how many were Casboult's?
I can think of three of the Richmond centre clearances that were the direct result of a Warnock tap to the chest of an opponent, one of whom was Maric himself. There were how many centre bounces? Let's see. 4 to start the quarters plus 30 after goals. We won 14 of 34, less than half. They won 12, about a third, if which we gifted them 3 and yet we still just scraped home. Brock got tackled three times before he took a step. Twice he got pinged. That's two more for Richmond, five in all. So we gave them 3 from hitouts and two frees because the tap went to an oppponent or to someone who was not in a position to do anything with it when we got it.
Don't hold that up as an example of good rucking.
There are many nuances of centre square work that you think you know about but obviously don't. There is more to it than quoting raw stats with no breaking them down.
I haven't even started on the other stoppages.
Watch it again. He's a useless giraffe and there is a reason he played all his footy in the WAFL and now the VFL. Successive coaches have worked him out. Harvey, Ratten and now MM have all played him in the seconds. When Kreuzer is fit, Warnock will go straight back to the VFL where he belongs. Better we trade him than pay him to play there. He's a waste of salary cap space. And I don't recall his taking one contested mark yesterday. He's 206cm, has hands the size of dinner plates and he can't catch a ball that would be like a tennis ball to a normal sized person.
For all his faults, Hampson is a better prospect.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:25 am 
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I actually thought Warnock was very good today. :?


So did I .....he continually got the tap; and if our players can't take advantage of that; it's not his fault.

And that is just too funny for words.
Yarran continually got kicks and cocked them up last night. If those downfield couldn't mark them because they were off target, it wasn't his fault.

That's your argument transferred from taps to kicks. If the taps are misdirected, of course it's his fault. If he taps them to a Richmond player, which he did on three occasions in the centre, whose fault is that?

You're soft markers. You want the team to excel but you accept mediocrity in the ruck. You can't have it both ways.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:30 am 
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The boys showed great resolve after being blitzed in the first quarter.....That is what i like to see Fighting Spirit... Go Blues!!!!!!!

This.
It was a big change from most other weeks when we were headed and just capitulated.
They came back hard at us twice in the last but we kept them at bay.
Good sign.
I think MM wuold have to be pleased with that and I haven't seen his presser but I'd be surprised if it didn't crack a mention.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:31 am 
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Gibbs and McLean, take a bow. Couldn't have done it without Scotland either. Sack him though eh?

I think Scotto might retire anyway. Even if he doesn't, he's only got a year left in him I reckon. He will be super hard to replace.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:37 am 
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Thanks for posting that. Sung with a lot of gusto. That win meant must have a lot to them as a playing group.
Nice touch at the end with Menzel scrubbing Graham's head as though Menzel were a 200 gamer.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:07 am 
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When Kreuzer is fit, Warnock will go straight back to the VFL where he belongs.


And Kreuzer will continue to get beaten at centre bounces against the giant rucks.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:22 am 
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Effes wrote:
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When Kreuzer is fit, Warnock will go straight back to the VFL where he belongs.


And Kreuzer will continue to get beaten at centre bounces against the giant rucks.


I agree with this, Warnock is far and away our best option in the ruck, we also tend to win more games when he is rucking than we lose. Obviously Kreuzer is better around the ground but that doesn't help with giving our midfielders first use of the ball. He dosesnt often place the ball to our advantage, he thumps trhe ball forwatd more oiften than not and more often than not the ball ends up in the hands of an opposition player.

Play Kreuzer as an onballer , fine, but Warnock needs to be our number 1 ruck option.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:20 am 
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Well I'm in love with football again. Was at a family do, so could only follow the game on twitter (thanks camelboy ;) )

Just saw the replay.

Waite down back just makes sense huh? He'll save his body and might be a chance of playing a full season there.

I'm a big fan of Cas. He's raw, but he's fun to watch.

Menzel. I kinda shut my eyes whenever he has it. I'm just waiting for his knee to explode. If he stays fit he'll be one helluva player.

Touhy I'm in love with.

If we smash those hopped up bastards next week, this season will be a pass from me. But we need to bury them by 10 goals.

Good stuff.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:13 am 
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You too?


In the context of whether he plays CHB or forward, rather than in the team at all.


#tooobtuse


Fish elsewhere.


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You still haven't found what you're lioking for, Verbs, have you?

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