King hit

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In any yike someone is going to throw the first punch. If that finishes it , then so be it. My definition of a king hit is hitting somone looking the other way, or hitting them from behind.
What's relevant is why did Scotland hit this supposed innocent victim ?

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As I mentioned in another thread on Culture and Values, Geelong DID make examples of Stokes and Stevie J, and they both came back to football better for it, in Johnson's case, AA, premiership player and Norm Smith medallist.

I guess it depends on whether you want to have a rabble at the club, or a cohesive team with a single direction and goal. Blokes who play football are pretty much like the rest of society, they aren't perfect and stuff up from time to time. Given that an incident has occurred, then reinforcing that a certain sort of behaviour is unacceptable can be a positive thing for the club.

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I think people want a return to the 1970s/80s where you can have a cohesive team who still get on the piss after games and get into trouble in their own time.

This just isn't reality anymore though. The excuses need to stop.

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king hit = guy didn't know it was coming

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Then he's an idiot. Lets agree to disagree.

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The footage didn't look good.

King hit. No question. Not the right way to handle any situation ...unless it was 10 against 2 and a few had to be taken out before the real stuff happened out the front. Violence has its place, but I prefer it doesn't happen. Usually the good guy loses.

I don't want Scotland suspended from H&A because I am a bias Carlton supporter and admire Scotland the footballer and CFC B&F.

If it was a player from another team, such as Hurley, then I would want him suspended and gaoled too.

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I don't think that the issue is whether or not Scotland's actions were acceptable. Our legal system has said that they're not and has imposed a punishment.

The issue for me is whether the AFL is entitled to impose further punishment for something that doesn't really have anything directly to do with the competition. I think that the AFL is confused and inconsistent on this front. They've imposed severe penalties on people without a conviction, (eg Cousins), and yet done nothing about someone found guilty of an extremely violent action, (eg Jurrah). They don't seem to really know what their policy on this is.

Possibly time to knock this thread on the head , as in lock ?

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H&A ban imminent

Now we're going to be forced to 'compromise' with the AFL, and our initial decision to stubbornly dig in our heels is going to look all the more stupid.

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Isn't the criminal system for these matters not the kangaroo court that is the tribunal. If it is a serious matter then he goes to gaol and doesn't play.

Perhaps Anderson should just get personally involved in dispensing justice again. Judge Dread eat your heart out.

Nothing stubborn about the club not going off half cocked and suspending Scotland from day one.

The hand wringers and Caroline Wilson will bring up the Saints sacking Jason Gram to say what we should have done.

I'd have much preferred the club make a bold statement regarding the behaviour of players without the need for AFL intervention, instead of trying to convince them "it was no big deal" and making a fool of themselves in the process.

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Agreed donstuie. It was a no-brainer to rub him out for a couple early on and be done with it.

Like it or not, the die has been cast in this respect. If blokes are getting club imposed bans for taking a sleeping tablet, ending up in court after king hitting someone is the minimum requirement.

My only major concern is the lack of HBF types we have on the list to cover for him.

You're a funny bastard Punter....good one.

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Don't know about the funny bit...

Maybe funny looking

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Who have you been speaking to???

As a side issue, why haven't they announced this yet? Two week holiday, he's a very naughty boy, been taught a lesson etc etc

Was it really a "King Hit" (ie punching someone who is not aware that it is coming). I ask because I have seen and heard media reports talking about a "king hit" when the footage clearly shows two people going toe to toe thumping one another - clearly not a king hit by any definition I have heard. Also heard Robbo on TV refer to a "king hit" seemingly thinking that this referred to a knock out punch regardless of it being amongst a flurry of punches by both persons involved.

Didn't Scotlands alleged punch occur during an altercation where the other party had assaulted his brother? Would like to hear more before passing judgement.

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I haven't seen footage of the stand up fight like you have NT, but I did see the 'king hit'.
Looked like a 'king hit' in that IIRC Scotland approached the group of 3 (?) guys, and he threw a punch at one of them, and the recipient didn't look like he was expecting it. Scotland looked so short the recipient probably didn't see the dwarf. Didn't look like the punch was aimed to kill, but to shake up the other fella and lethim know Scotto's brother had fearless back up.

I don't know what to make of it, because there's more to the story than the 10 seconds I've seen of it.

What I do know is that if someone had been very nasty towards my brother and my brother didn't seserve the violent treatment he received from 1 or more, I'd go in and support him...with a packed punch..probably...probably worse, I'd arrange for some troops to come in and do the dirty work....but then again I don';t know if I'd have the control to restrain myself...and I don't have a brother.

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