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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:09 am 
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Should be looked at as the players love him and love playing for him. To me he has a bit of Paul Roos about him


That's a joke right?


Past a joke!!! :banghead:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:23 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
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Should be looked at as the players love him and love playing for him. To me he has a bit of Paul Roos about him


That's a joke right?


Past a joke!!! :banghead:


Just in the relationship he seems to have with the players playing for him.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:01 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
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Should be looked at as the players love him and love playing for him. To me he has a bit of Paul Roos about him


That's a joke right?


Has to be, I laughed....a lot.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:51 pm 
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At a similar stage of Roos' coaching career he gave a 3 qt address to the USA as they took on Canada that was very similar to that of Teagues at box hill last week only with less talk of roll down.

Seriously though, to me Teague has a calmness and style that seems to get the best of his players. They love playing for him. Similar to how Roos' team like playing for him IMO.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:56 pm 
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He'd want to smarten up in terms of his ability to devise and develop tactics, as I think myself, Doc, BV and at least another dozen or so posters on here could have formulated the analysis and address he gave.

Respect is a fickle beast and he should be praised for having garnered it from the playing group, but he's not much chop otherwise, at least not yet.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:03 pm 
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Could it be possible that during the season when the Blues are still playing he has his hands tied with the way he wants to use the players and that come finals once the blues are out he is free to do as he pleases and he then gets the results he has been getting in finals?

I am not saying it is. I am just asking the question. Those on here watch the Ants more than i do (which is a fair bit) would have a better idea.

Either way he is getting the Ants into GrandFinals so he should be looked at at the very least.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:28 pm 
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Could it be possible that during the season when the Blues are still playing he has his hands tied with the way he wants to use the players and that come finals once the blues are out he is free to do as he pleases and he then gets the results he has been getting in finals?

I am not saying it is. I am just asking the question. Those on here watch the Ants more than i do (which is a fair bit) would have a better idea.

Either way he is getting the Ants into GrandFinals so he should be looked at at the very least.


In another post I made comment that he seems to have the players all on song. But I can also see the fact that like all success it's a matter of preparation meeting opportunity. By that I mean that he has at his hands a bunch of experienced AFL players that are effectively playing for their lives. If that can't motivate you, nothing can.

Consider the following names: Johnson, Thornton, Fisher, Browne, Austin, Setanta.

4 of these players have proven capable, and at times, good or very good at AFL level, but they all (including Browne, Austin) find themselves perceiving or realising that they are in danger of not being on an AFL list next year. I'd need little additional motivation if I were them.

And as for Jimmaes comment that he or a few others could have come up with his analysis at 3 qtr time: probably right, it was slightly cliched, but these guys are footballers, not scientists, and they were already executing well enough to not need a complex message. Right?

On the flipside, when players are in that mindset, they can often revert to "selfish" football to drive up their value/desirability. The fact they have not, at least not last week, shows that they have been able to get the message of the coach and deliver on it.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:48 pm 
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He's still pretty fat though

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:11 pm 
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Blue Steel wrote:
And as for Jimmaes comment that he or a few others could have come up with his analysis at 3 qtr time: probably right, it was slightly cliched, but these guys are footballers, not scientists, and they were already executing well enough to not need a complex message. Right?

Teague had no system of play to move the ball forward and capitalise when we turned the ball over in the Casey game. We sat on the lead we built in the first quarter (or more accurately, the lead Setanta built) all day. Yes the conditions were adverse, but there were ways around that like playing a more rigid system of ball movement instead of expecting everyone to constantly roll down and roll up.

While at first glance this is no way helps you as a player at AFL level, properly introducing the concept of playing to what you're presented with could encourage players to think more about the way they play their football, and that's a good thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:49 pm 
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I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:50 pm 
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I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:59 pm 
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Lucky to not be in jail?

He's wasn't exactly a TAC poster child once upon a time (or he was, depending on your definition).


I thought he was a very good premiership O & M player who tried his ass off and got an opportunity for the Murray Kangaroos. His work ethic and committment can never been questioned. Not sure he would have been in jail. Just a country boy who got the best out of his abaility through hard work.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:01 pm 
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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.


Seems like Jim has met another after that post. How puerile!

Why are we besotted with what is within instead of looking laterally at what is outside in terms of coaches?

The Bullants' success?
Is it due to the large number of early draft picks that we have had in the last few years (including rookie drafts)
Is it due to the poor selections/trades that ensure that those are Bullants?
Is it due to a coach whose opinions are bound by the senior coaches?

Personally?
I vote for number 2. Joe Anderson is a classic. Recruited at number 26 (or so), cannot kick but is amazingly athletic, dominates the VFL but is just not good enough at the higher level.

I don't think Teague can coach to the standard, yet, that we need at the higher level and yes, I have seen a lot of Bullants games


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:31 pm 
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Doc, shocking comment implying he should have been in jail.. really average remark.


I said he would have done jail time....sometimes the truth is shocking. If you honestly believe that a modern car such as the ute Teague was driving has loose floormats go right ahead...my bro-in-law drives the same car... they're embedded in the carpet. And if it was loose, it defies the laws of gravity for it to intefere with the pedals. And in that unlikelihood, it's still made of a flexible material. One also wonders if this is a design fault with the vehicle (in which case Ford should have issued a recall).

Like many of you I'm sure, I'd like to think I know a bit about handling vehicles. From the reports, it seems that Teague simply took the corner way too fast and the inevitable happened.

For what it's worth, two mechanical experts gave contrasting evidence over the likelihood that the car's foot mat interfered with the accelerator and contributed to the crash. The magistrate ruled that he couldn't 'exclude as a reasonable hypothesis that the floor-mat interfered with the proper operation of the brake and the accelerator pedals.' Thank you expert witness paid for by the Carlton Football Club. Favor number 1. Favor 2 - retire early...but we know you have an interest in coaching...here's the Bullants. Favor 3 - Assistant coach of an AFL club? I don't think so. Not yet.


Doc your comments about the floormats are uninformed at best and bullshit at worst.
I am on my second XR6 Falcon and the first one was a 2004 Ba which is effectively the same model as the car Teague was driving both of my cars have been fitted with genuine ford XR floor mats and they are held in place by a couple of hooks, it is quite concieveble that the floor mats could have shifted just as mine have on more than one occasion, add to the fact that you can go and buy el chepo floor mats at any auto store which are not anchored in any way at all, there is a square moulded into the carpet made of a plastic but that is not a floor mat, I spent over ten years of my life working in the motor trade and I have seen many instances of where a floor mat has got tangled in the pedals and caused an accident or a near miss.

I really hope that your comments have been based on a lack of understanding rather than some dislike of the Bloke, as that would be very disappointing as I find most of your posts to be generally well thought out and sensible.
FWIW I think we could do a lot worse than Teague as an assistant, but at the end of the Day no one knows how good anyone will be until they are tried.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:36 pm 
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It's quite clear he doesn't like the bloke.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:37 pm 
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Fair enough. I'm trying to build up enough of a hate following to ultimately get banned though...so nothing personal. Obviously quite a bad attempt on my behalf.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:38 pm 
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McConville33 wrote:
Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.


Seems like Jim has met another after that post. How puerile!

Why are we besotted with what is within instead of looking laterally at what is outside in terms of coaches?

The Bullants' success?
Is it due to the large number of early draft picks that we have had in the last few years (including rookie drafts)
Is it due to the poor selections/trades that ensure that those are Bullants?
Is it due to a coach whose opinions are bound by the senior coaches?

Personally?
I vote for number 2. Joe Anderson is a classic. Recruited at number 26 (or so), cannot kick but is amazingly athletic, dominates the VFL but is just not good enough at the higher level.

I don't think Teague can coach to the standard, yet, that we need at the higher level and yes, I have seen a lot of Bullants games


Joey was a much later pick - around pick 58


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:51 pm 
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aramari wrote:
McConville33 wrote:
Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.


Seems like Jim has met another after that post. How puerile!

Why are we besotted with what is within instead of looking laterally at what is outside in terms of coaches?

The Bullants' success?
Is it due to the large number of early draft picks that we have had in the last few years (including rookie drafts)
Is it due to the poor selections/trades that ensure that those are Bullants?
Is it due to a coach whose opinions are bound by the senior coaches?

Personally?
I vote for number 2. Joe Anderson is a classic. Recruited at number 26 (or so), cannot kick but is amazingly athletic, dominates the VFL but is just not good enough at the higher level.

I don't think Teague can coach to the standard, yet, that we need at the higher level and yes, I have seen a lot of Bullants games


Joey was a much later pick - around pick 58


Pick 67, 2006 ND.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:46 pm 
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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
I fancy Jim, that you'd never ever be as good as coach as Teague is already. You're a keyboard warrior unless you can prove credentials otherwise; don't get too carried away with your capabilties and your fanatasies.

That's a more than reasonable point to make. The rest is (as already mentioned) puerile and what's more, at no point have I said anything to the contrary.

Water pistol back in the holster please.

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