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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:00 pm 
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For me the decision on Warnock is a big deal. If Ratts drops him I think it’s a good sign, as it shows that past mistakes (ie paying over the odds for him), whether perceived or actual, have not clouded his current decisions. If he doesn’t drop him the cynic in me will think that they want to save face for having paid so much for him.

Because in terms of his performance so far (when you have Jacobs in good form waiting in the wings), he should be dropped.


Matthew Kreuzer against Ess
21 hit outs and 11 disposals
Kreuzer also had 4 tackles.

Robert Warnock against Ess
16 hit outs and 9 disposals
Warnock also had 3 tackles.

Not much difference in that woeful game. I'm sure you can actually teach the players at training on the mistakes that were made during the game. For me, Warnock atleast gets his hands on the ball in the ruck and can palm it down to the players. Kruzer might get taps but it goes anywhere, but kruzer makes up for it around the field.

I just think the more senior games he plays, the quicker he will develop. When l was playing junior tennis, l developed a lot quicker against harder competition, then playing a easier level of play. Same as football. You haven't got as much time as you would in the AFL, compared to VFL.

Warnock has only played 24 games of AFL. He is still a 2nd year player virtually. I think your got more benefit playing him in AFL, then dropping him to the reserves against easier/weaker opponents.


I don't disagree that playing him in the seniors might fast track his development - but IMO that's giving Warnock favourable treatment over Jacobs. I think Warock is in poor form and Jacobs deserves his chance.


The world isn't always favourable. If your ratten, Warnock is your 8-10 year ruckmen. You want to fast track him.
Jacobs played first 6 or so games at start of last year and couldn't make it back in the seniors and only cloke/hampson were in front of him. So makes me wonder what is missing with jacobs.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:19 pm 
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Please bring Hadley in. Do NOT bring Judd in as a straight swap for Mclean. I might cry after I cringe. Hadley as the straight swap, Judd to do whatever the @#$%&! he wants, whever the @#$%&! he wants.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:21 pm 
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diesel_85 wrote:
big ground at aami, lets go with youth and speed and run them ragged. Welcome back C.Judd

IN
Garlett
Judd
Wiggins
Sauce

OUT
Mclean
Robinson
Houlihan
Warnock


You want youth and speed yet you want to bring in Wiggins and Jacobs?????


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Would think that with McLean injured and Robinson doubtful Garlett and Judd would appear to be the logical inclusions with Wiggins perhaps the third change for a marking forward. I think Warnock will hold his spot and the MC may play Waite at CHB with Jamison, Armfield, Thornton, Russell and Scotland down back.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:06 pm 
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Just querying why people think Robinson should be dropped?

The two changes I'd make are Houlihan and McLean (Inj) out for Judd and Garlett.

One more chance for T-Bird to rediscover some form and confidence or to the Bullants for a couple of weeks.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:21 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Adelaide can turn up with their SNFL team and still beat us comfortably. This is has been the miserable story of our Club.

Players out of form suddenly find form and kill us


Unkown players who never played a game kill us and kick bags on us



then you suddenly realize its not about the opposition and who plays or doesn't. Its about our bloody miserable list and players who are lazy and unwilling to change their habits.


Carlton's Culture is sicking and it needs to change. These players earn easy money but don't know the value of wearing a Navy Blue Jumper.

Well said, Spot On
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:33 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
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Adelaide can turn up with their SNFL team and still beat us comfortably. This is has been the miserable story of our Club.

Players out of form suddenly find form and kill us


Unkown players who never played a game kill us and kick bags on us



then you suddenly realize its not about the opposition and who plays or doesn't. Its about our bloody miserable list and players who are lazy and unwilling to change their habits.


Carlton's Culture is sicking and it needs to change. These players earn easy money but don't know the value of wearing a Navy Blue Jumper.


Pathetic


feel free to !@#$%& off and 'support' another team , nobody is forcing you to follow such a pathetic club

so Gathering by your comments you are basically accepting that the standard being shown is good enough and acceptable, well if thats the case you too should !@#$%& off and take ratten, Thornton, Carazzo, and the other half dozen squibs with you


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:36 am 
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White a possible debut this weekend!!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... -se2m.html

Not sure about the comments on Henderson. His kicking was poor at times but his leading and marking was strong.

Ratts is verbally laying down the challenge this week to the playing group, surely the players will respond?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:44 am 
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because he is actually a crap footballer who has only has one good moment each game

Peter Sherry wrote:
Would think that with McLean injured and Robinson doubtful Garlett and Judd would appear to be the logical inclusions with Wiggins perhaps the third change for a marking forward. I think Warnock will hold his spot and the MC may play Waite at CHB with Jamison, Armfield, Thornton, Russell and Scotland down back.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:48 am 
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chelodina wrote:
because he is actually a crap footballer who has only has one good moment each game


Who are you talking about?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:49 am 
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White a possible debut this weekend!!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... -se2m.html

Not sure about the comments on Henderson. His kicking was poor at times but his leading and marking was strong.


Yes that is strange. I think I'm seeing improvement in Hendo's game, despite the lack of goals on the weekend. The most important thing for me was that he was finally holding his marks even when under pressure from behind.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:14 am 
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Blind Freddy can see that Hendo is improving with every game and once he's gained more composure and confidence (along with a little more size) he'll be a gun.

It's just unfortunate the site's riddled with Helen Kellers.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:53 am 
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If we come out a belt Adeliade, I will be happy because I love a good belting :sly: but also seriously pissed off that we didn't do the same to the Scum.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:03 am 
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Judd comes in, sounds like Garlett is def in from Ratts' comments, and Hadley and Wiggins are a chance. McLean is gone through injury, so who else makes way? I think Lucas will stay and Dangles was one of the few who gave their all against the Bombers, so doubt it will be him. Clearly, nearly the whole team is under the spotlight, but who makes way with at least one more to go out as well as Brock.

For mine, Walker is on shaky ground

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:11 am 
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I wasn't confident about beating the bombers last week. But I have a good feeling about this one. I think the boys will come out firing. Judd will be freakin' hungry after sitting out three matches.

Blues by 39pts.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:52 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
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They can't be thinking about dropping O'Hailpin. He's been our best player (fire away) this season.



This may not make sense...but Irish's 8 or 9 goals IMO are clouding how ordinary he's been.


I actually agree, he was terrible against Essendon*, and was running around like a headless chook adding to our forward line confusion in our first half against Brisbane.

I don't like him as a major target, because he has no idea what is going on.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:59 am 
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Just a left-field thought...Setanta has kicked as many goals as Fevola this season. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:19 am 
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Rafalution wrote:
White a possible debut this weekend!!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... -se2m.html

Not sure about the comments on Henderson. His kicking was poor at times but his leading and marking was strong.

Ratts is verbally laying down the challenge this week to the playing group, surely the players will respond?


Interesting that Ratts instructed them to go through the corridor last week, but his directions weren't followed.

The game plan plot keeps thickening......

Johncock will be back this week, he and Macleod are due for big games. We have to stop their influence


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:48 am 
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Johncock will be back this week, he and Macleod are due for big games. We have to stop their influence


Johncock is a fat overweight slob. He needs to be tagged out of the HB line, as he's the one who starts so many forward thrusts for the Tingles.

McLeod, is doing one "speccy" thing a game, and that's saving his arse. Put a bloke on him who can work both ways and he'll do flower all.

If Carlton are turned on and get the first couple of goals and silence the Knitting brigade, then we can win. If they don't and give the Crows a sniff then there's trouble......

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:29 am 
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Last week I was thinking how lucky the interstate fans are after we lost to Essendon*. haveing to even talk to a single Bummer fan is torture.

But its probably worse for Blues fans in Adelaide if the crows beat us.

Come on carlton, do it for sjabc, lurker and the rest of the crew in Adelaide

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