Grigg will probably miss round 1

Even if its tightness he has only 11 days to get it right
Best to not risk him and be ready for round 2

I know we all get carried away and are impulsive at times but seriously to get reported in a practice game at bunbury right before the start of the season is stupid stupid stupid

And why cant the Adelaide teams play each other or the Perth teams.

How ridicolous it is to play a practice game in Bunbury.

What a joke.


Its called the nab challenge right

Proves you cant chocolate coat a turd

Just play a couple of praccie matches in your own state one inter club game and start the real stuff in early March

15000 empty seats on Friday night at the Dome prove that these games have absolutely no meaning at all and that one competition counts and that is the proper season.

Dipense with the NAB challenge and the NAB cup altogether and start the real season a month early

You will play 11 teams twice not 7 have a more even draw.

Feb and March is as Genesis said A Land of Confusion

Mark Harvey's comments are interesting .......

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It's extra doubly stupid if you're an uncertain starter in the 22. Wiggo has probably just saved them the trouble of dropping him, but with our improved depth, there is no guarantee the path back is straight forward anymore.

Still if we made it through the pre-season with two rolled ankles, a hamstring twinge, and a suspension to a non-essential player, then I reckon we got off light from that campaign.

Wiggo was charged with rough conduct. That can cover a multitude of unknown sins. It could even mean going at the ball hard and collecting an opponent who ducks his head at the last moment. He hasn't been charged with striking. A couple at the ground have suggested the Umps were over officious so maybe this was just part of the vibe.

Keogh have you seen the footage of the supposed incident?

Wiggo is not the sort of player who plays the man. He goes hard at the ball, always.

If you haven't seen the incident perhaps he deserves the benefit of the doubt before being dubbed stupid stupid stupid.

Regards Cazzesman

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Every1 should be extremely happy with our preseason and remember results mean nothing in the preseason.....

We are in good shape for round 1...sure we have a few that won't come up for the Richmond game being Carrazzo, Grigg???, Warnock but what the Nab Cup has shown is that our depth has definately got stronger and we have players like Joseph, Garlett, Bentley, Jacobs, Ellard and Hill who all are pushing the senior guys for games....Yarran and Robinson will add skill and grunt and Anderson, Hartlett, Austin will all be around the mark....

Ratts has a selection headache which is a good thing as we finally have around 30 players who could play seniors in any given round and places in the side are at a premium which all goes well for 2009 and beyond....

Bring on the Tigers in Round 1 and Go Blues.....

Results may not have any meaning in the pre-season (although it's debateable), but reports and injuries certainly do. I'd be curious to know how Ratts reacted after the match.

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What concerns me is:

1. Freo had no Ibbotson, Palmer, Headland and McPharlane; and

2. Tiges beat them by 7-8 goals a few weeks ago. Sure, they were undermanned, but this is our Rd 1 opponent. Let's not get too smug about this.

Amateurish stuff by the Blues. Happy to lose by 2-3 if the gun mids only half pace, but 7 goals isn't on.

Clubs like Freo have owned us past 5-6 yrs and they'll take plenty of heart out of this.

MATCH DETAILS

Richmond 1.1.5 1.3.5 1.8.5 1.12.8 (89)
Fremantle 2.3.2 3.4.4 3.4.8 5.5.11 (86)

Actually the tiges only just got over the line thanks to Richo.

But what concerns me is the kicking for goal. A massive problem for us last year that seems to have not improved thus far.

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Stop stressing everyone, pre season results dont mean shit come round 1. Remember 2005 and 2007?

The only concern is Grigg, dont worry too much about Wiggins and Johnson they are fringe players at best.

Thanks Blue Ice, I welcome that correction

It's not stressing, there are just concerning signs. It's pre-season, yes, but to totally dismiss the results and cover your ears going LALALALALALALALA is dangerous.

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last year we gave it to the Dogs in our last praccy game then rocked up to the g a couple of weeks later and got whipped by the tigers. This all means nothing. To have a bunch of goals kicked on us i the last tells me we shut up shop at 3qtr time.

Injuries are going to happen. Grigg may have pulled his hammy in round 1 and missed the next 2. We have to live with it.
Reports are always going to happen also. These days you can get done for someone barging into your shins with their head. We have to live with that also and know how to become a better team because of it.

I would hope Ratts takes last nights game and injuries and possible suspensions on the cheek and focuses on the challenges ahead.

This year we are going to lose games. We are going to turn up to games flat and lose games we should win. We are also going to get beaten by better teams. We are going to get injuries. We all have to learn how to deal with this.

From my expert vantage point on my couch here in Beijing I see some inconsistencies:

1. Our coach states publicity that this is a fair dinkum hit out for round one and they serve up that rubbish? From the great work of Gro and 78MPH it appears midfield pressure was woeful.

2. Robbo has a couple of solid games and then we see nothing from him? I would have thought that the more experience he could get would be advantageous. No news re a potential injury. Ratts was talking about Robbo being another option up forward, you can only do that if you are on the ground.

3. A stated intent is to have alternative scorers in the forward line and yesterday, just Fev.... Still appear to one dimension in attack.

Not necessarily an inconsistency, but the ruck is still a major deficiency and will be an Achilles heel this year if Hammer, Big Sammy and Warnock fail to come up.

People are saying that this game was practice but excellent practice makes excellence. I suspect some have started to believe all the hype. 10 days to reflect and get it sorted for Round 1. This first round game is probably one of the most critical first games for us in the past 7 years.

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Fremantle 6.1 10.3 14.4 20.6 (126)
Carlton 3.5 6.8 10.8 12.11 (83)

GOALS
Fremantle: Pavlich 3, Peake 3, Mundy 2, Solomon 2, Johnson 2, Hille 2, Bradley, Hinkley, Sandilands, Drum, Crowley, Grover
Carlton: Fevola 4, Yarran 2, Garlett, Betts, Murphy, Russell, Joseph, Fisher

BEST
Fremantle: Pavlich, Mundy, Sandilands, Peake, Hasleby
Carlton: Fevola, Murphy, Bower, Thornton, Hadley, Betts

INJURIES
Fremantle: Suban (shoulder)
Carlton: Grigg (hamstring)

Reports: S Wiggins (Carlton) reported for rough conduct against G Broughton (Fremantle) by field umpire D Margetts in the second quarter

Umpires: D Margetts J Schmitt T Keating

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Fair call

I have should have said playing in Bunbury was @#$%&! stupid stupid stupid
11 days before season proper

Also the umpire reporting him was Margetts.

Now he is a stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid umpire

He is worse than Inspector McLaren, Ray"I have short man syndrome' Chamberlain and Shit Schmidt put together
Quite simply the worse umpire in the AFL not just WA

Hope that clarifies things Cazzeman

We beat Doggies later on in the real stuff and upset them at the G in 2007. We match up well against them and our boys now front up to them "knowing" they can win.

We had a watershed win over Freo last year, as we did with Lions. The NAB win over the Roos was also pretty symbolic. I want us to keep the foot on clubs like these, clubs that have owned us for too long.

Not only do I agree with you 100%, but I'm also loving your avatar!! Kudos to you.

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From what i've read Wiggins destiny lays in the hurt he inflicted on the other player. Apparently, he tackled him but pinned his arms and slammed him into the ground. Now if there's no lasting damage, and there appears not as he wasn't named as an injured player, then the worst would be a reprimand.

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