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Should Jordan Russell remain on the list at the end of the season?
Yes 74%  74%  [ 145 ]
No 26%  26%  [ 51 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:35 pm 
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BlueWorld wrote:
SparkyBlue wrote:
BlueWorld wrote:
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...similarily, I believe there is a 'itchy trigger finger brigade' - who like to rubbish players and the like at the drop of a hat, only to quickly sing their praises like a fan club member when they string a few good games together.
:garthp:


Something funny Blueworld?

You disagree?!


I was most definitely agreeing with you. The :garthp: referred to those who do that so often you can only say :garthp: One week they want them dropped, next week they claim they're fans. :garthp:


Otherwise known as "The Jordan Bannister Syndrome". If he'd injured himself at the start of the year, people would have said 'tough titties' instead of 'he'll be sorely missed'. :garthp:

My apologies for misinterpreting BW. :wink:

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JR is improving, and he is having a fair dinkum crack. Isn't that all we ask from our players, from Chris Judd through to Michael Shields?


Hey there's another one who did sweet f(&#-all against Adelaide.

Michael Shields. Drop him to the twos.


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keogh wrote:
Russell's efforts on Sat were good in terms of tackling and keeping MCLeod's effect on the game to less than the previous week where he ripped Freo apart.


There are 2 downsids to Russell's game

At times when he has had to go for the ball he hasnt gone hard enough and thats a fact not an unfair criticism. Once a player is labelled as soft he has that stigma for a long time even if he does change his game in this area.

Carlton have too many soft players. its a fact that Stevens , Houlihan , Gibbs, Russell have this tag. Talk to any knowing supporter and this is confirmed. And guarenteed these players would be told every week by opposition players particularly in the Josh Carr mould.To change that player needs to keep their eyes on the ball and not deviate off the line. A guy like Kreuzer has stacks of courage. His eyes are firmly on the ball and his body goes with it. Russell needs to develop it by peforming a few courageous acts. I saw Didak drop and easy mark on Anzac day . He dropped it because he took his eyes off the ball expecting contact. He is older than Russell. Lets hope Jordan doesnt have the same reputation as Didak has. But Russell has to earn that respect by doing it. 9 tackles on the stats sheet doesnt mean your courageous.

The second problem he has is he panics when he has the ball. To kick into the man on the mark tells me he is thinking too much about actually kicking the ball and putting too much pressure on himself. Hopefully someone will have a productive word in his hear. The right thing said at the right time might be all Russell needs.

The fact is turnovers kill ya these days..In the third quarter last Sat
Gibbs Kreuzer turn over in defence
Grigg Russell miss "certain goals
Add in Chamberlian's goal and there is the Crow's winning margin.


The question has to be asked

When do you cut russell from the list
IMO there is probably 8 to 10 you would delist before Russell so he would be spared the hangman's noose for 08
But if he doesnt improve these 2 areas of his game he will definitely be gone in 09. He would have had enough chances by then.


Since when is Gibbs soft?


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sstormin123 wrote:
keogh wrote:
Russell's efforts on Sat were good in terms of tackling and keeping MCLeod's effect on the game to less than the previous week where he ripped Freo apart.


There are 2 downsids to Russell's game

At times when he has had to go for the ball he hasnt gone hard enough and thats a fact not an unfair criticism. Once a player is labelled as soft he has that stigma for a long time even if he does change his game in this area.

Carlton have too many soft players. its a fact that Stevens , Houlihan , Gibbs, Russell have this tag. Talk to any knowing supporter and this is confirmed. And guarenteed these players would be told every week by opposition players particularly in the Josh Carr mould.To change that player needs to keep their eyes on the ball and not deviate off the line. A guy like Kreuzer has stacks of courage. His eyes are firmly on the ball and his body goes with it. Russell needs to develop it by peforming a few courageous acts. I saw Didak drop and easy mark on Anzac day . He dropped it because he took his eyes off the ball expecting contact. He is older than Russell. Lets hope Jordan doesnt have the same reputation as Didak has. But Russell has to earn that respect by doing it. 9 tackles on the stats sheet doesnt mean your courageous.

The second problem he has is he panics when he has the ball. To kick into the man on the mark tells me he is thinking too much about actually kicking the ball and putting too much pressure on himself. Hopefully someone will have a productive word in his hear. The right thing said at the right time might be all Russell needs.

The fact is turnovers kill ya these days..In the third quarter last Sat
Gibbs Kreuzer turn over in defence
Grigg Russell miss "certain goals
Add in Chamberlian's goal and there is the Crow's winning margin.


The question has to be asked

When do you cut russell from the list
IMO there is probably 8 to 10 you would delist before Russell so he would be spared the hangman's noose for 08
But if he doesnt improve these 2 areas of his game he will definitely be gone in 09. He would have had enough chances by then.


Since when is Gibbs soft?





An email has been circulating the net taking the piss out of those heat maps you know where the player runs for the whole match.
Gibbs is in it for all the wrong reasons as are the rest of the players.


He has that reputation apparently.



I didnt say Gibbs was soft personally just that he has that reputation because I havent seen it first hand. I personally have with the other 3 at times .
As for JR lets hope he improves in that area. I think he has to some extent.


As for the general view that some of our list are too soft I wrote a post but got only 7 replys from the regulars who disagree with me so I must be wrong then :roll:


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your man played pretty good last night grrofunger :wink:


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first half was the best footy he has ever played, went missing in the second half. Improving still, my boy may still make it (can we share him gro? i have had this avatar for quite a while)

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Drop 'im.

:P


Nah, we boy went alright last night.


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