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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:46 pm 
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no but I am not buying this cake and it it too claptrap. denis is perfect the list isn't.
Come on Synbad even you can do better than that.

Reread stuff and then reply don't just sprout crap for the sake of it.

I have already said Denis may have allowed himself to be outcoached, fine, doesn't mean he wasn't though cos as a coach on saturday he did @#$%&! all to prevent the 85 point loss. Now maybe he was making a point or taking a look etc etc. Fine. But lets not pretend Senis had done all he could do. he didn't. He can do a lot more.

The interesting question is why did he?

And there we are closer to each other than you think.

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no but I am not buying this cake and it it too claptrap. denis is perfect the list isn't.
Come on Synbad even you can do better than that.

Reread stuff and then reply don't just sprout crap for the sake of it.

I have already said Denis may have allowed himself to be outcoached, fine, doesn't mean he wasn't though cos as a coach on saturday he did F@%&#! all to prevent the 85 point loss. Now maybe he was making a point or taking a look etc etc. Fine. But lets not pretend Senis had done all he could do. he didn't. He can do a lot more.

The interesting question is why did he?

And there we are closer to each other than you think.


dannyboy ive just explained that Denis isnt the coach youre looking for if you want surprise match day changes... nor will he try and stop the tide if theyre not pulling their weight.
Thats why out worst losses in the history of the club are under Denis.
Its too easy to stack the defence up with downhill skiiers.
Its much harder for them to run, tackle , shepherd, contest etc...
If theyre not going to do what they have trained to do he isnt interested in playing Barnaby on Stafford .... or Betts in the middle with Campo out on a Hf flank.. you should know that.!!
youve seen what we train to do...
Denis preperation is about a method.. a formula. .. theyre not doing it. Denis wont change that with a couple of waves of the magic wand from the coaches box.


Lets not be naive.. we are miles away from being a good side. Man on man contests are telling Denis who will stay and who wint.. in his constant search for the right mix of players who want to be part of a Carlton outfit who will win a flag . HOPEFULLY!!!

Currently there are not many of them that want it...

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Currently there are not many of them that want it...


Who, IYO, does?

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see this is where we diverge. Are you telling me that even with an excellent team (say Port last year) Denis is unable to make changes on a saturday when things are not going well and just sits back and accepts those losses?

But what if its a final?

The Final?

Sorry I understand he may not choose to, its the idea he cannot that sends shivers down my spine, that makes him very, very suseptible come match day.

I think he could, if he chose to, but on saturday chose not to.

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dannyboy wrote:
see this is where we diverge. Are you telling me that even with an excellent team (say Port last year) Denis is unable to make changes on a saturday when things are not going well and just sits back and accepts those losses?

But what if its a final?

The Final?

Sorry I understand he may not choose to, its the idea he cannot that sends shivers down my spine, that makes him very, very suseptible come match day.

I think he could, if he chose to, but on saturday chose not to.


dannyboy i theyre doing what theyre meant to be doing wed be in the game.
The gameplan executed properly means we would win more than we would lose.
If were doing what were meant to be doing Denis will make changes and always has.. remember Carey in the 99 GF?? Or what he does with Archer back or front ..

But he wont make changes to cheat himself from knowing who is who and what is what...
the only people cheating are some players

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